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		<title>By: Ezsuds81</title>
		<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/14/fun-wingraham/#comment-4936</link>
		<author>Ezsuds81</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 02:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles said:

"Mike, you had a great point that needed to be pushed. LAURA complained about how the media is not showing how GREAT the non-green zone Iraq has become. Yet apparently it’s not so great that the Administration must enter Iraq secretly."

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We all know about incidents of media members being killed or injured in Iraq.  Here is a Washington Post article about that discusses this issue. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/22/AR2006052201386.html

The article states: "Since the Iraq war began in March 2003, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists, 69 journalists have been killed while on duty, along with 26 media support workers."

The main point of the article is that &lt;b&gt;the Voice of America's Baghdad Bureau has been closed for six months&lt;/b&gt;
"..&lt;b&gt;The government-funded agency&lt;/b&gt; withdrew its only reporter in Iraq after she was fired upon in an ambush and her security guard was later killed. .."But &lt;b&gt; a federally funded information service to pull out of Baghdad for such a prolonged period raises questions about the Bush administration's insistence that conditions there are gradually improving.&lt;/b&gt;

"&lt;b&gt;The VOA,&lt;/b&gt;, which broadcasts in 44 languages around the world, is designed to be journalistically independent but &lt;b&gt;is required by its charter to "present the policies of the United States clearly and effectively &lt;/b&gt;."

Kind of hard to achieve that requirement, if security conditions are so bad that you had to pull out your one reporter, and you haven't been able to find another volunteer to replace her in six months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mike, you had a great point that needed to be pushed. LAURA complained about how the media is not showing how GREAT the non-green zone Iraq has become. Yet apparently it’s not so great that the Administration must enter Iraq secretly.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>We all know about incidents of media members being killed or injured in Iraq.  Here is a Washington Post article about that discusses this issue. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/22/AR2006052201386.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/22/AR2006052201386.html</a></p>
<p>The article states: &#8220;Since the Iraq war began in March 2003, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists, 69 journalists have been killed while on duty, along with 26 media support workers.&#8221;</p>
<p>The main point of the article is that <b>the Voice of America&#8217;s Baghdad Bureau has been closed for six months</b><br />
&#8220;..<b>The government-funded agency</b> withdrew its only reporter in Iraq after she was fired upon in an ambush and her security guard was later killed. ..&#8221;But <b> a federally funded information service to pull out of Baghdad for such a prolonged period raises questions about the Bush administration&#8217;s insistence that conditions there are gradually improving.</b></p>
<p>&#8220;<b>The VOA,</b>, which broadcasts in 44 languages around the world, is designed to be journalistically independent but <b>is required by its charter to &#8220;present the policies of the United States clearly and effectively </b>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kind of hard to achieve that requirement, if security conditions are so bad that you had to pull out your one reporter, and you haven&#8217;t been able to find another volunteer to replace her in six months.</p>
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		<title>By: John Minehan</title>
		<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/14/fun-wingraham/#comment-4929</link>
		<author>John Minehan</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is getting better.  With any luck we have broken the back of the AQ in Iraq (at least for now) and can let the Iraqis heal thier own divisions.

Bush was right to stay the course.  However, if all of this proves to be true, the best thing we can do is cut and run, otherwise we can swing the whole thing the other way by our presense.  (No one loves foreign occupation.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is getting better.  With any luck we have broken the back of the AQ in Iraq (at least for now) and can let the Iraqis heal thier own divisions.</p>
<p>Bush was right to stay the course.  However, if all of this proves to be true, the best thing we can do is cut and run, otherwise we can swing the whole thing the other way by our presense.  (No one loves foreign occupation.)</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/14/fun-wingraham/#comment-4923</link>
		<author>Charles</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a common and harsh reply when Republicans say "Well, they volunteered for it" whenever there's any complaint about the 15,000 causulties (I say casualties as that includes all that were injured so severely that the person cannot stay in theater).

Volunteering to serve is not volunteering to die on the whim of an administration who has no realistic plan and does not listen to his generals.

Mike, you had a great point that needed to be pushed. LAURA complained about how the media is not showing how GREAT the non-green zone Iraq has become. Yet apparently it's not so great that the Administration must enter Iraq secretly. I recall Truman, in the "last throws" of the war, travelled BY BOAT to Europe and took part in a public meeting. Now that tells you that we've got a handle on the situation.

Guess we're not at war with terrorism. Now it's "global jihadism" now? So Christian terrorist and economic terrorists don't count anymore? Nice to know we're at war with a religion, that always has a good outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a common and harsh reply when Republicans say &#8220;Well, they volunteered for it&#8221; whenever there&#8217;s any complaint about the 15,000 causulties (I say casualties as that includes all that were injured so severely that the person cannot stay in theater).</p>
<p>Volunteering to serve is not volunteering to die on the whim of an administration who has no realistic plan and does not listen to his generals.</p>
<p>Mike, you had a great point that needed to be pushed. LAURA complained about how the media is not showing how GREAT the non-green zone Iraq has become. Yet apparently it&#8217;s not so great that the Administration must enter Iraq secretly. I recall Truman, in the &#8220;last throws&#8221; of the war, travelled BY BOAT to Europe and took part in a public meeting. Now that tells you that we&#8217;ve got a handle on the situation.</p>
<p>Guess we&#8217;re not at war with terrorism. Now it&#8217;s &#8220;global jihadism&#8221; now? So Christian terrorist and economic terrorists don&#8217;t count anymore? Nice to know we&#8217;re at war with a religion, that always has a good outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Stark</title>
		<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/14/fun-wingraham/#comment-4915</link>
		<author>Mike Stark</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>odanny...  holy cow, man...  hemhorroids?

first of all, my first point was that I don't see a lot of support amongst democrats for John Kerry - that we want a fighter that does the right thing even when it's unpopular - like Feingold...  but, while I was holding, I thought better of speaking ill of fellow dems, so I dropped it...

you cannot tear her to peices.  all you can do is get some truth out there.  you try getting nasty with her and she shuts you down immediately.  Listen to my previous calls to her.  It's her style.

read the next post - if you haven't already - for more.

As far as chatting up YKos - I want them to know we are coming for them.  I want them to tell them every chance I get that we are coming after them.

Instead of bitching about me, why don't you take them on?  It'd be so much more productive.

best,
m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>odanny&#8230;  holy cow, man&#8230;  hemhorroids?</p>
<p>first of all, my first point was that I don&#8217;t see a lot of support amongst democrats for John Kerry - that we want a fighter that does the right thing even when it&#8217;s unpopular - like Feingold&#8230;  but, while I was holding, I thought better of speaking ill of fellow dems, so I dropped it&#8230;</p>
<p>you cannot tear her to peices.  all you can do is get some truth out there.  you try getting nasty with her and she shuts you down immediately.  Listen to my previous calls to her.  It&#8217;s her style.</p>
<p>read the next post - if you haven&#8217;t already - for more.</p>
<p>As far as chatting up YKos - I want them to know we are coming for them.  I want them to tell them every chance I get that we are coming after them.</p>
<p>Instead of bitching about me, why don&#8217;t you take them on?  It&#8217;d be so much more productive.</p>
<p>best,<br />
m</p>
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		<title>By: odanny</title>
		<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/14/fun-wingraham/#comment-4908</link>
		<author>odanny</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was your second point that you forgot? If you are going to go OT and chat up your law school and keep dropping references to the Kos convention (which I think everyone has heard enough about) then maybe it would help to have some notes nearby that outline your points.

As far as that condescending, know nothing bitch Ingraham, her implication was clear: You join the military, you run the risk of getting sent somewhere to get yourself blown up or maybe killed, its part of the bargain. 

You should have torn this woman to pieces but instead you two had a lovefest about UVA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was your second point that you forgot? If you are going to go OT and chat up your law school and keep dropping references to the Kos convention (which I think everyone has heard enough about) then maybe it would help to have some notes nearby that outline your points.</p>
<p>As far as that condescending, know nothing bitch Ingraham, her implication was clear: You join the military, you run the risk of getting sent somewhere to get yourself blown up or maybe killed, its part of the bargain. </p>
<p>You should have torn this woman to pieces but instead you two had a lovefest about UVA.</p>
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