Comments on: Hannity on pulling out

By: Mary

Mary — Fri, 12 Jan 2007 02:40:36 +0000

Well. Maybe we should go about it diplomatically rather than militarily (precisely what we should have done instead of invading illegally). We should be engaging talks with Syria and Iran to see if we can come up with a solution that doesn’t involve more bloodshed. We should also try to obtain greater involvement of the Arab League and the UN in seeking a solution in Iraq. The real problem is that there is Iraqi (Sunni) opposition to the Shiite-led government and there is nothing we can hope to accomplish by sending in more U.S. troops seeking to quell the insurgency. Sooner or later we will be pulling out of there, and you can be sure nothing will have been accomplished, just like nothing has been accomplished in Israel-Palestine or Lebanon by the use of guns and name calling. Unfortunately, the 3,000 thousand American solidiers already killed will be joined by thousands unless we come up with some intelligent alternatives.
Bush is an asshole. His original policy: “let’s invade and see what happens.” His new policy: “Let’s send in more troops and see what happens.” Condi Rice is another ass. She says the sacrifice of our boys and girls in Iraq is worth it. She says it will help get rid of the people who attacked us on 9/11. She really thinks Americans are stupid and cannot see that Iraq has strictly nothing to do with 9/11.

By: Robrob

Robrob — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:53:51 +0000

“interesting, but futile”

Well yes, but it was only a rhetorical question designed to elicit a specific response. The RW definition of any withdrawal as “cut & run” forces them to say there is no limit to the casualties they are willing to take in order to save face. Obviously we will either leave Iraq some day or we will stay there forever. The RW is too afraid to say they want to stay there forever and they know that *any* time-line they would ever give will prove be a lie so they simply label any and all talk of even the most tentative of future withdrawals as “cut & run.”

No RW will ever be able to tell you how many dead Americans peace in Iraq is worth.

By: orihd

orihd — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:56:50 +0000

that sort of question is interesting, but futile if we arent making progress in iraq. what if 5000 deaths later, iraq is even worse than it is now?

By: Robrob

Robrob — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:48:06 +0000

markovits,

Your Jun 17th, 2006 at 11:45 am post was well written and thoughtful. I do wonder though about the depth of your convictions. How many more Americans’ lives is peace in Iraq worth to you? Will 3,000 be enough, 4,000? At 5,000 will you decide it has been too expensive or are you comitted for the long haul and willing to see 10-12,000 dead Americans for us to have peace in Iraq?

By: Pete S

Pete S — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:53:42 +0000

Ho Chi Minh = Popular support, National Hero (He fought the Japanese (he was one of our Allies), French, Americans, and later the Cambodians)

Hussein = Popular support from Sunni, no one else (Brutal dictator, crazy kids who would have put cigarettes out on people long after dad assumed room temperature)

Ho Chi Minh not equal to Hussein
Vietnam not equal to Iraq