Comments on: Last O’Reilly (now I shower)

By: darth zinn

darth zinn — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:52:36 +0000

If we redeploy as Murtha suggests wouldn’t that turn some other country into the front line against terrorism?
Keep hammering the point home about the war being won though. This country is recoiling from nation building and is ready to stop this war. Karl Rove types are framing/driving the zeitgeist (nationalist at this point) into some inconsequential referendum on illegal immigration. Stay on target.
“Don’t build walls /Don’t lock the door while our boys are still out there fighting”

By: Bob

Bob — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:33:40 +0000

Off topic — and maybe somebody mentioned it elsewhere — but had you all heard that Wilkow is leaving WGY for Sirius Patriot? Now you can bust his balls on a national level. (Really — is this the best Sirius can do?) Truly, though, the only difference now is that I can not listen to him on my satellite radio. Ha!

By: Charles

Charles — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 04:33:13 +0000

Soon, very soon we’ll see the beyond the horizon presence that worked so well with our bases in Germany and Japan.

We didn’t win the Cold War with bases in Russia and China, we won it militarily with a presence that could be projected anytime the other side blinked. We won it economically, with spirited capatalism (arguments on what qualifies as fiscally responsible mind you). We won it morally with civil rights and open government.

Yet somehow, all three of those are impossible to use with Iraq? We have to be in the fight, we can’t tell the people what we’re doing while we’re there, and we have to spend ourselves into a 400 billion dollar hole in the process?

Keep hitting on Murtha’s talking points Mike. Adapt Tammy Bruce’s analogy that she fucked up “We set a peremiter around Iraq just like police set a peremiter around a bank” (Tammy fucked it up because we don’t have the place surrounded, we’re inside getting pot shots taken at us, killing innocents along the way). Police don’t go in guns blazing unless they don’t give a shit about the people inside. We’ll still have intelligence in Iraq in the form of Special Forces and intelligence networks of the CIA and Military.

Good call, again.

By: odanny

odanny — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 04:22:47 +0000

There is no “momentum”, unless ’scorched earth’ can be considered momentum. Bombing ordinary Iraqi’s into the stone age does a wonderful job of breeding hatred, resentment and future terrorists. While we squander precious lives daily and 6 billion a month in Iraq we also insure that not only future generations of Americans will be indebted paying for the costs (along with thousands of disabled veterans) but we also insure that many in the Muslim world will pass their genuine hatred of this country’s actions onto their offspring, children who will not know their relatives who were lost in the occupation and coldly reported as “collateral damage” by our government.

It will take generations to undo the damge this government has caused.

By: commie_hedgehog

commie_hedgehog — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:53:53 +0000

Mike, as I listened to your call concerning Iraq, it occured to me that maybe the proper frame of the arguement should be we’ve already won. No WMD, no more Saddam and if we remember from the Kosovo/Bosnia situation good Republicans are against “nation-building.” Isn’t that exactly what we are doing in Iraq. I don’t know if this is useful, but it doesn’t hurg