Last O’Reilly (now I shower)
Published by Mike Stark June 19th, 2006 in Bill O'ReillyThis is the call I made to O’Reilly. I wasn’t able to provide complete context, but O’Reilly was talking about bombthrowers on the left and on the right… Then he segued into Iraq - I tried to hit both angles.
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so if you were able to stay on the line, how would you have responded to his last comment in the clip?
I actually tried to respond by asking what momentum he saw…
I’dve followed up by pointing out that Al qaeda is a tiny portion of the insurgency. Muslims just don’t want to be occupied by infidels and even the moderate Iraqi people have been turned off by our insensitivity and iron-fisted force protection policies that result in thousands of senseless deaths every year. We’ve paid out millions in death claims, but I can pretty much tell you for certain that not one penny of those claims has resulted in less hatred towards the troops that did the killing.
hey Mike,
your doing a great job -
I listened to your Tammy Bruce call -
Another thing I’ve been thinking about along the lines of “we fight them there so we dont have to fight them here” -
what is it that gives us the right, to use a whole country, not our own, as a battleground to fight the very few actual al queda out there? and in the process, causing tons of collateral damage, oppresing the population, causing havoc all over?
i mean.. the complete audacity we have!…
think about this, and see if you can introduce this line of thought as well, maybe with the Hannity man. lol.
ChristAlmighty makes a great point. It’s not like Iraq was a huge haven for Al Qaeda before the war. There were some terrorists inside the borders, but is that enough to occupy the country , and kill possibly 100,000 of it’s residents? (many that were not in any way affiliated with terrorism)
Mike, as I listened to your call concerning Iraq, it occured to me that maybe the proper frame of the arguement should be we’ve already won. No WMD, no more Saddam and if we remember from the Kosovo/Bosnia situation good Republicans are against “nation-building.” Isn’t that exactly what we are doing in Iraq. I don’t know if this is useful, but it doesn’t hurg
There is no “momentum”, unless ’scorched earth’ can be considered momentum. Bombing ordinary Iraqi’s into the stone age does a wonderful job of breeding hatred, resentment and future terrorists. While we squander precious lives daily and 6 billion a month in Iraq we also insure that not only future generations of Americans will be indebted paying for the costs (along with thousands of disabled veterans) but we also insure that many in the Muslim world will pass their genuine hatred of this country’s actions onto their offspring, children who will not know their relatives who were lost in the occupation and coldly reported as “collateral damage” by our government.
It will take generations to undo the damge this government has caused.
Soon, very soon we’ll see the beyond the horizon presence that worked so well with our bases in Germany and Japan.
We didn’t win the Cold War with bases in Russia and China, we won it militarily with a presence that could be projected anytime the other side blinked. We won it economically, with spirited capatalism (arguments on what qualifies as fiscally responsible mind you). We won it morally with civil rights and open government.
Yet somehow, all three of those are impossible to use with Iraq? We have to be in the fight, we can’t tell the people what we’re doing while we’re there, and we have to spend ourselves into a 400 billion dollar hole in the process?
Keep hitting on Murtha’s talking points Mike. Adapt Tammy Bruce’s analogy that she fucked up “We set a peremiter around Iraq just like police set a peremiter around a bank” (Tammy fucked it up because we don’t have the place surrounded, we’re inside getting pot shots taken at us, killing innocents along the way). Police don’t go in guns blazing unless they don’t give a shit about the people inside. We’ll still have intelligence in Iraq in the form of Special Forces and intelligence networks of the CIA and Military.
Good call, again.
Off topic — and maybe somebody mentioned it elsewhere — but had you all heard that Wilkow is leaving WGY for Sirius Patriot? Now you can bust his balls on a national level. (Really — is this the best Sirius can do?) Truly, though, the only difference now is that I can not listen to him on my satellite radio. Ha!
If we redeploy as Murtha suggests wouldn’t that turn some other country into the front line against terrorism?
Keep hammering the point home about the war being won though. This country is recoiling from nation building and is ready to stop this war. Karl Rove types are framing/driving the zeitgeist (nationalist at this point) into some inconsequential referendum on illegal immigration. Stay on target.
“Don’t build walls /Don’t lock the door while our boys are still out there fighting”