More O’Reilly
Published by Mike Stark June 19th, 2006 in Bill O'ReillyHe was completely off his rocker today.
To begin with, I agree with Atrios that it’s a good idea to document the know-it-alls that purport to tell us how much longer we’ve got before it’s too late to do any good in Iraq and we need to begin to withdraw. O’Reilly says if we haven’t seen progress by the end of the year, it’s time to go.
I don’t know what that says about the argument he makes in the next post I’ll make - the call I made to him today - in which he says that if we’ve got a chance to defeat Al Qaeda on the battlefield, we can’t let it go… I can’t imagine why we wouldn’t still have that chance in 2007… but we’ll leave it to O’reilly to explain it to us then I guess…
In the second part of this call, O’reilly refuses to take a call from “Josh.” Josh wanted to tell O’Reilly that if Bill was so gung-ho on war, he should have his own kids fighting in it.
O’Reilly called Josh “mean-spirited.”
Maybe one of y’all can explain to me how expecting other kids to fight in a war you aren’t willing to have your own kids fight is less mean-spirited that asking your own kids to volunteer.
And what of all the military advertising? Military advertising is used to ask people to serve in wartime. Is that “mean-spirited?”
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were you josh? if so that’s pretty good to get a wingnut unraveled without even taking your call. he couldn’t even answer it. that’s the old mike i know :p
No - I wasn’t Josh… but I’ve always said the best calls are never mine. I just document the atrocities.
In the meantime, here’s to hoping that more people call in…
Speaking of military advertising - There’s a great interview with the lead singer of Godsmack - who’ve lent several songs to the Navy for them to use in advertising - where he tries to weasel out of the fact that he’s promoting to his fans, who are in their late teens and 20s, that it’d be really cool to go into the military and you’d get backstage and meet chicks and party party party!
Good rundown of the whole thing here. I met Jay Babcock, who conducted the interview. The Godsmack guy literally could not reply coherently to anything he was saying. Good stuff.
Beat AQ on the battlefield?
AQ’s main MO is to avoid the battlefield altogether. They’re terrorists FCS (for christ’s sake, well, for Allah’s).
So AQ, the perpetual boogyman is what’s keeping us in Iraq? Hey, AQ is supposedly in Syria and Egypt and Jordan and Pakistan, etc etc. Are we keeping checkpoints and razing whole towns looking for ‘AQ’ in Iraq? No.
So what bill is saying is that we have to stay in Iraq forever since we’ll never ever ever ‘beat’ AQ ‘on the battlefield.’
But for him, this plays perfectly into the ‘football’ mentality, the way most Murkins look at war, as a sport, where there’s a clear winner and loser. And that loser will never be the USA. The USA is a winner.
Now when you tell these cooks “We won! We won! Let’s leave…”
They say, “No no, we didn’t win. Not yet.”
Maybe that’s the angle to get at Joe Redneck.
“We already won this war, but Republicans want to say we didn’t. They want to call the military losers and punish them by making them stay in Iraq and tell them that they need to ‘finish the job,’ but their job is done. They won. We won. The USA won, and now Republicans aren’t satisfied with that. They don’t think that what our troops have accomplished constitutes a victory. They want to punish our troops for not winning yet, but clearly they won a long time ago.”
For Joe Redneck it’s all about winning and losing, pride and face.
Life and death are incidental.
BTW, that’s what it’s all about for most Arabs, too.