A lesson for Wilkow
Published by Mike Stark June 28th, 2006 in UncategorizedContext: earlier in the show, Bennett mentioned something about his million listeners and how many of them might be from Bangladesh. Before that, his producer made a cryptic comment about Byron York being with the Kossacks a coupla weeks ago. They said they wouldn’t explain it - instead they’d let the emails flood in.
So I called to tell him my Byron York story. I was also able to set the call up so that I could use bennett as a proxy for York.
Well, Bill Bennett answered the abortion questions with some agility and aplomb, I’m afraid.
Andrew Wilkow could learn from this.
We coulda gone on further, but it’s Bennett’s show and, well, you know - he reserves the topic.
It was still nice to discredit Mr. Hair, though…
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Nice call Mike. As you point out, the questions you raised can be reasonably answered. Maybe Andrew Wilkow will figure it out someday. I’m glad you linked to the Wilkow call, what a classic meltdown!
As I mentioned in a comment yesterday, I put a link to your “Petri dish” call to Wilkow, on an Andrew Wilkow thread on the Sean Hannity Message board. It took them about a week or so to find it, then they removed it and Banned me for linking to a “Hannity Hate website”. Oh well, guess I’ll have to find other things to occupy my time.
Long-time lurker, first-time responder.
Excellent conversation. People should be held accountable not only for the consequences of their actions, but the logical consequences of their arguments. Thank you for trying to get beyond the inflammatory rhetoric of the right wing. Countering with progressive inflammatory rhetoric is no solution. As you have shown, a solution is to calmly lay out the points of an argument in a jargon-free manner. Whenever I hear Rush or Wilkow (I live in the Capital Region) start out an argument with “…those liberal/elite/drive-by media…” I know the playing field is already slanted. Wouldn’t you categorize someone who can afford a private plane to the Dominican Republic for the weekend as “elite”?
I also don’t like how the right-wing projects its own weaknesses onto progressives. Just because dittoheads march in lockstep doesn’t mean that progressives are slaves to Kos or Arianna or even Mike from Albany!
The whole abortion debate is pointless when you frame it how they want you to. Putting it in hypocritical terms such as “all life is precious, life begins at conception” and framing it that way will get you no where. Take that out of the debate, agree that it’s life or not, usually easier just to say “fine it’s life”.
Now how do you deal with reality if you make abortion illegal. History has shown that if it’s illegal people will still seek abortion but what happens is you have back alley abortions leading to serious complications and death. You have to either go after the doctors or the mothers. Neither is a viable solution. The debate comes down to irrational people wanting a utopia that fits their ideological idea of what utopia is. Unfortunately this is the real world and issues like this can’t be solved with wishing and wanting. Abortion is not the problem even though many want to focus on it because showing dead babies and preaching is so much more “exciting”, it’s the lack of education and responsibility.
Make them answer the question of “If you get your way and make abortion illegal then what?” You can’t force people to follow laws like that so does making it illegal really do anything other than giving prolife activists a warm fuzzy feeling about winning their little culture war.
Issues like these are non-issues used to keep their base fired up about something, nothing more.