Comments on: My brief chat with Tom Tancredo http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/ Kickin' ass on the lyin' side: A never-ending battle against stupid, ugly, deceitful and corrupt right-wing water carriers... Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:23:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Gary E http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/#comment-6566 Gary E Tue, 04 Jul 2006 02:01:05 +0000 http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/#comment-6566 Bobby Mcgee wrote "All the terrorists on 911 came through Canada…" Urban Myth. They were on legal US visas issued by the USA. They were let into the country by US Border Guards from either Europe or the Middle East . http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38816-2005Apr8.html Bobby Mcgee wrote

“All the terrorists on 911 came through Canada…”
Urban Myth.
They were on legal US visas issued by the USA.
They were let into the country by US Border Guards from either Europe or the Middle East .

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38816-2005Apr8.html

]]> By: Conservative http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/#comment-6557 Conservative Tue, 04 Jul 2006 01:09:10 +0000 http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/#comment-6557 The next to the last sentence of the above post was meant to state "Under the Senate immigration bill, as I understand it, illegal aliens that committed the crime of improper entry by an alien and illegal aliens that are visa overstayers would be treated the same". The next to the last sentence of the above post was meant to state “Under the Senate immigration bill, as I understand it, illegal aliens that committed the crime of improper entry by an alien and illegal aliens that are visa overstayers would be treated the same”.

]]> By: Conservative http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/#comment-6556 Conservative Tue, 04 Jul 2006 01:07:01 +0000 http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/#comment-6556 Ezsuds81: Illegal entry into the United States is a CRIMINAL OFFENSE. According to Title 8, Section 1325(a), an alien who improperly enters the United States shall, for the first commission of that offense, "be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of [that] offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both". Therefore, illegal entry into the United States can be charged as a misdemeanor or felong offense. Further, Title 8, Section 1325(b) provides that "[c]ivil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed". Any illegal alien that has illegally entered the United States has committed the offense of improper entry by an alien. Depending on the circumstances, it may have been a misdemeanor or a felony offense. The Senate immigration bill gives amnesty to millions of illegal alien that commited the crime of improper entry by an alien. Further, millions of illegal aliens that committed the crime of improper entry by an alien would also be granted legal status and allowed to pursue a path to citizenship. Under the Senate immigration bill, as I understand, illegal aliens that committed the crime of improper entry by an alien and illegal aliens that are visa overstayers would be treated the same. In my opinion, none of those illegal aliens should be given legal status and a path to citizenship. Ezsuds81:

Illegal entry into the United States is a CRIMINAL OFFENSE. According to Title 8, Section 1325(a), an alien who improperly enters the United States shall, for the first commission of that offense, “be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of [that] offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both”. Therefore, illegal entry into the United States can be charged as a misdemeanor or felong offense. Further, Title 8, Section 1325(b) provides that “[c]ivil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not
in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed”.

Any illegal alien that has illegally entered the United States has committed the offense of improper entry by an alien. Depending on the circumstances, it may have been a misdemeanor or a felony offense. The Senate immigration bill gives amnesty to millions of illegal alien that commited the crime of improper entry by an alien. Further, millions of illegal aliens that committed the crime of improper entry by an alien would also be granted legal status and allowed to pursue a path to citizenship.
Under the Senate immigration bill, as I understand, illegal aliens that committed the crime of improper entry by an alien and illegal aliens that are visa overstayers would be treated the same. In my opinion, none of those illegal aliens should be given legal status and a path to citizenship.

]]> By: Ezsuds81 http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/#comment-6539 Ezsuds81 Mon, 03 Jul 2006 22:18:30 +0000 http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/#comment-6539 Conservative poster Title 8, Section 1325 of the United States Code: It seems to me that there is much discussion of <b>civil penalties</b> in the code. Many of the people here are visa overstays (reportedly between 35% and 50% of all that are here illegally) , that would be about 4 to 6 million people. I believe that they would be subject to civil penalties. I think that all that are here illegally should be treated the same way, whether they overstayed their visa , or crossed the border illegally . Either way, they are here illegally. Conservative poster Title 8, Section 1325 of the United States Code:

It seems to me that there is much discussion of civil penalties in the code. Many of the people here are visa overstays (reportedly between 35% and 50% of all that are here illegally) , that would be about 4 to 6 million people. I believe that they would be subject to civil penalties. I think that all that are here illegally should be treated the same way, whether they overstayed their visa , or crossed the border illegally . Either way, they are here illegally.

]]> By: Ezsuds81 http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/#comment-6533 Ezsuds81 Mon, 03 Jul 2006 22:02:44 +0000 http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/my-brief-chat-with-tom-tancredo/#comment-6533 Common Sense wrote: "We are talking about having them leave. If we enforce the laws as written, your assumption that “they are going to be in this country” is a false one. How long do you think it will take to have all the illegals out of the country? You previously wrote of when the government "stops giving the illegals handouts and educating their children, They are here, we should educate them while they are here. Some by virtue of birth, are citizens. Those that are not citizens still deserve a public education. I think there are too many uneducated people already, no need to make that situation worse. Common Sense wrote:

“We are talking about having them leave. If we enforce the laws as written, your assumption that “they are going to be in this country” is a false one.

How long do you think it will take to have all the illegals out of the country?

You previously wrote of when the government “stops giving the illegals handouts and educating their children,

They are here, we should educate them while they are here. Some by virtue of birth, are citizens. Those that are not citizens still deserve a public education. I think there are too many uneducated people already, no need to make that situation worse.

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