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	<title>Comments on: They just won&#8217;t let it go</title>
	<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/they-just-wont-let-it-go/</link>
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		<title>By: Jack Anusoff</title>
		<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/they-just-wont-let-it-go/#comment-6811</link>
		<author>Jack Anusoff</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 17:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, then they STILL don't know about it. 

But, you shouldn't have answered his dumb questions!
Why didn't you come back at his questions with "it's about warrants! It's about the govt following the law! it's not about dumb wannabe terrorists who are so dumb they're going to get caught anyway."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, then they STILL don&#8217;t know about it. </p>
<p>But, you shouldn&#8217;t have answered his dumb questions!<br />
Why didn&#8217;t you come back at his questions with &#8220;it&#8217;s about warrants! It&#8217;s about the govt following the law! it&#8217;s not about dumb wannabe terrorists who are so dumb they&#8217;re going to get caught anyway.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Iriseon</title>
		<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/they-just-wont-let-it-go/#comment-6690</link>
		<author>Iriseon</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 06:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/they-just-wont-let-it-go/#comment-6690</guid>
		<description>Mike, this is stupid.  NYT revealed HOW we track terrorist finances.  It's one thing to suspect illicit international wire transaction monitoring and quite another to be told exactly how that process is carried out, the tools utilized, and who is involved.  SWIFT cooperated because there was a lengthy subpoena process and tiered oversight.  You need to get your head around the fact that we are on the winning side.  You aren't rooting for Islamofacists are you?   (Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.)


You folks are going to lose if you keep this up.  I don't want that.  You don't want that.  Don't sell out your principles to become more moderate, but really examine the logical conclusions of your arguements and what it is exactly you want to achieve.  Better yet, truly examine the sources of your opinions.  

I would rather we have a strong two party system and not this piss-storm of fucking half-bright neophytes and toadies.  Ignorance is piss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, this is stupid.  NYT revealed HOW we track terrorist finances.  It&#8217;s one thing to suspect illicit international wire transaction monitoring and quite another to be told exactly how that process is carried out, the tools utilized, and who is involved.  SWIFT cooperated because there was a lengthy subpoena process and tiered oversight.  You need to get your head around the fact that we are on the winning side.  You aren&#8217;t rooting for Islamofacists are you?   (Never ask a question you don&#8217;t already know the answer to.)</p>
<p>You folks are going to lose if you keep this up.  I don&#8217;t want that.  You don&#8217;t want that.  Don&#8217;t sell out your principles to become more moderate, but really examine the logical conclusions of your arguements and what it is exactly you want to achieve.  Better yet, truly examine the sources of your opinions.  </p>
<p>I would rather we have a strong two party system and not this piss-storm of fucking half-bright neophytes and toadies.  Ignorance is piss.</p>
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		<title>By: c.d.</title>
		<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/they-just-wont-let-it-go/#comment-6405</link>
		<author>c.d.</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 23:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is classic straw man debate propoganda , i did enjoy the victory music as hewitt ran away from you , nice new twist that should serve well to empty the pockets of the  lower/working class republican base in therapy for years to come .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is classic straw man debate propoganda , i did enjoy the victory music as hewitt ran away from you , nice new twist that should serve well to empty the pockets of the  lower/working class republican base in therapy for years to come .</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/they-just-wont-let-it-go/#comment-6356</link>
		<author>Eric</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing the terrorists don't have internet access. Otherwise they might have discorvered http://www.swift.com.
Or they could have gone to SWIFT's trade show. Which is the largest of its kind in the world. Yeah, it's good they don't have a multi-millionaire running al Queada. You know, like a wealthy Saudi. Because they might know something about international banking...
Idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing the terrorists don&#8217;t have internet access. Otherwise they might have discorvered <a href="http://www.swift.com." rel="nofollow">http://www.swift.com.</a><br />
Or they could have gone to SWIFT&#8217;s trade show. Which is the largest of its kind in the world. Yeah, it&#8217;s good they don&#8217;t have a multi-millionaire running al Queada. You know, like a wealthy Saudi. Because they might know something about international banking&#8230;<br />
Idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Ezsuds81</title>
		<link>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/they-just-wont-let-it-go/#comment-6335</link>
		<author>Ezsuds81</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/06/29/they-just-wont-let-it-go/#comment-6335</guid>
		<description>This reminds me of the Joe Biden / Alberto Gonzales exchange about the wiretapping program.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/030206.html

The administration’s claim about the need for extraordinary secrecy surrounding the wiretap program is also largely a charade. Al-Qaeda and other enemy groups have long been aware that the United States has the capability of electronic eavesdropping and have structured their operations accordingly.

In the Feb. 6 hearing, Gonzales acknowledged as much under questioning from Sen. Joe Biden, D-Delaware.

Biden asked, “How has this revelation damaged the program” since the administration’s attack on the disclosure “seems to presuppose that these very sophisticated al-Qaeda folks didn’t think we were intercepting their phone calls?”

Gonzales responded, “I think, based on my experience, it is true – &lt;b&gt;you would assume that the enemy is presuming that we are engaged in some kind of surveillance. But if they’re not reminded about it all the time in the newspapers and in stories, they sometimes forget”&lt;/b&gt; – a response that drew laughter from the citizens in the hearing room.
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Apparently the administration no longer believes this line of "logic".

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If you used the original "Gonzales logic" on this situation, a good counter arguement would be:

If the administration and it's blowhards( RW Talkers) were so worried that this would become a huge story, drawing attention to the SWIFT program, and thereby damaging our chances of catching Al Qaeda, they should have just &lt;b&gt;SHUT UP&lt;/b&gt; about it. 

&lt;b&gt;Their bombastic outrage has drawn more attention to the program, than the news stories ever could.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the Joe Biden / Alberto Gonzales exchange about the wiretapping program.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/030206.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/030206.html</a></p>
<p>The administration’s claim about the need for extraordinary secrecy surrounding the wiretap program is also largely a charade. Al-Qaeda and other enemy groups have long been aware that the United States has the capability of electronic eavesdropping and have structured their operations accordingly.</p>
<p>In the Feb. 6 hearing, Gonzales acknowledged as much under questioning from Sen. Joe Biden, D-Delaware.</p>
<p>Biden asked, “How has this revelation damaged the program” since the administration’s attack on the disclosure “seems to presuppose that these very sophisticated al-Qaeda folks didn’t think we were intercepting their phone calls?”</p>
<p>Gonzales responded, “I think, based on my experience, it is true – <b>you would assume that the enemy is presuming that we are engaged in some kind of surveillance. But if they’re not reminded about it all the time in the newspapers and in stories, they sometimes forget”</b> – a response that drew laughter from the citizens in the hearing room.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Apparently the administration no longer believes this line of &#8220;logic&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
If you used the original &#8220;Gonzales logic&#8221; on this situation, a good counter arguement would be:</p>
<p>If the administration and it&#8217;s blowhards( RW Talkers) were so worried that this would become a huge story, drawing attention to the SWIFT program, and thereby damaging our chances of catching Al Qaeda, they should have just <b>SHUT UP</b> about it. </p>
<p><b>Their bombastic outrage has drawn more attention to the program, than the news stories ever could.</b></p>
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