My Story

It doesn’t get better than this. The only part they edited was a private phone call I rec’d in the middle of their interview. This is the first time I saw the beginning of the incident. The video I was watching (you won’t be able to see it) shows that I was clearly assaulted immediately after asking the senator to tell us what he was arrested for.

http://www.charlottesvillenewsplex.tv/home/headlines/4545351.html

In addition, I know many of you visiting would be interested in hearing me ask Senator Allen about his use of the n-word.  If you click the “play” icon at the bottom of this post, the audio will play.

Next, to give you an idea of the work I’ve done as a blogger, here’s a post that has some highlights assembled in one place.

Finally - until this recent activity, the blog has been basically defunct.  Since law school started, I just don’t have the time I once had to make the calls or otherwise engage the political process.  Once this malstroem passes, I expect to once again, fade into obscurity.


200 Responses to “My Story”  

  1. 1 mike

    You’re a self-promoting asshole, a bitch for whining to the police, and just a generally obnoxious loser. In a few days webb will lose, Republicans will maintain majorities in both houses, your site will get 4 hits a week, and you’ll still be an ugly little asshole who can’t get laid.

  2. 2 Sarah

    Mike, no wonder America is in such a sad state. People like you live in it.

    Mike, so I guess if you ever get attacked and assaulted, do not go running to the police, k? Is it typical of Republicans to treat their foes in such a way? How manly! If you can’t beat your opponents ideas, just plain beat ‘em, right?

    Be very shocked when November 7th hits. Not every person in Virginia is as ignorant and pathetic as you are.

  3. 3 tony marques

    mike (who posted the first comment),
    Sounds like you are projecting about the “getting laid”

  4. 4 Rick

    “Assaulted” huh?

    Looks to me like Allen’s staffers acted responsibly to keep a screaming protestor/potential kook away from a U.S. Senator. Imagine that. Fucking sarcasm intended.

  5. 5 Jeebs

    Mike,
    Your courageous for calling-out a criminal as powerful as George Allen. A job well done. I sure hope the police get those jerks- Allen may have slipped the authorities but hopefully his sychophants won’t. Oh yeah, George Allen is the one who called that one American a “malacca”, right? hehe.

  6. 6 Paul D. Leitch

    Keep after Allen. We have too many like him in public office. I have always thought of myself as a moderate Republican, but the tactics of Bob Corker and his people have been so trashy in Tennessee that I voted early for Ford, Jr. and have a sign I will place in my front yard today. Its not that I am so crazy about the democrats, its just that I cannot stand the excessive negative campaigning that seems far worse among Republicans. Had an assinine phone call for Corker asking me if I “wanted higher taxes”, then “do you want terrorists to have the same rights as American citizens?” Then I hung up. Get negative junk mail everyday. Paul

  7. 7 Jeebs

    God forbid Americans protest! Protester=kook… or malacca. Fucking sarcasm intended if it wasn’t fucking obvious the first time.

  8. 8 claude

    Look-this guy has a website called “calling all wingnuts”. Does anybody have any realistic expectation that they are going to get high-minded dialogue? Mike has every right to pose obnoxious quetions. The Senator has every right to ignore this guy who is about as close to a self-described bomb-thrower as you can get. The Senator’s staff, however, do not have a right to respond physically to a verbal confrontation. Everybody relax and enjoy the show.

  9. 9 Jason

    I got a kick out of reading “Mike’s” response. The anxiety projected by Republicans is becoming clearly evident through their irresponsible and childish attacks on anybody who counters their viewpoint or opposes their candidate.

    Hey Mike, what does “getting laid” have anything to do with the November 7th elections? Somehow you tied the two together bu I’m failing to see the connection.

    The only connection I see between politics and sex is though George Bush continutally screwing the country.

    Thanks for the laugh Mike!

  10. 10 Marc

    Looks more like Allen and his staffers are dickheads…….and Allen shouldn’t be in office. Seems like a bit of a fascist to me. Well done Mike. You are right when you say the politicians should be afraid of us…..not the other way around. Power to the masses not the few.

  11. 11 Chris

    Keep up the good work!

  12. 12 cloaked spectre

    senator Allen is a piece of shit, women abusing, retard…..akin to his dim-witted chimp-faced leader…..

    Bravo to you my good Sir!

    Keep up the good work, you have the plurality of American support…..

    The GOP are a bunch of greasy assholes these days….

  13. 13 mike

    Yes Tony, it has been a while since your sister came over.

  14. 14 Eddie

    The first 3 replies on this topic is a microcosm of what the Republicans are doing all of the country. They cannot win on the issues so they are resorting to dirty tricks and smearing. The first 3 guys have nothing intelligent to add to the thread so they just go on a tirade with personal attacks. Keep up the fight Mike. Semper Fi

    ~eddie

  15. 15 ccrashh

    To Jeebs…

    He called him “macaca”…not “malaca”.

    Out of curiousity, Mike. Would you have been “stalking” Clinton with regards to many of his questionable financial (criminal) dealings and possible sexual misconducts back in the day? Or do you only go after right-wing politicians?

    Or are all left-wing politicians lily-white and perfect angels?

  16. 16 allensucks

    Mike,

    Great job!!! This is the type of tatics the GOP resort to when confronted with issues that are inportant to the American and VA public. I hope you are succesful in getting charges enforced in the assault agaist you, but coming from a police state as VA your chances are slim unless you go to Henry county with a couple pounds of coke to trade for arrest warrants to the thugs that attacked you. Keep up the pressure on the GOP thugs and criminals in VA. Tuesday is a new begining in America and VA. Please pick up a McDonald’s application and forward it to the GOP , they will need it after Tuesday.

  17. 17 abused wife/mother

    Dear Mike,

    I saw what happened with the Senator on tv last night. When you stated he spit on his wife it caught my attention because this was my ex’s favorite thing to do to me. This man abused previous wives (children) and he had/has restraining orders on him and has even been arrested for this. He too was protected due to his media status until they found him a liabilty and has now been accepted into the Police Academy - this is nuts! I cannot give you details of names, etc. as I have been placed with a gag order and my First Amendment Right taken away - heavens let’s not let the truth out. These abusers seem to have it all wrapped up with protection due to their career choices. Thank you for having the guts to expose this man for what he is, it gives great hope to the women and mothers that battle this abuse and no one seems to care. I can tell you that I know MANY women who would rally around you if you would like to contact me.

  18. 18 Freddy

    Clinton is not running for anything. Deal with relevant issues and people.

  19. 19 Brooke

    Wow. It’s amazing how these Rethugs all sound the same on the comments pages from blog to blog! Do they have a ‘comments central’ where they have a crew of 16 yr. old males fueled by pizza and caffeine making this shit up? Honestly, the first three comments could’ve been in the Anchorage Daily News blog here in Alaska! Maybe if we tone them down just a bit you could resell this as a bit to Saturday Night Live for the news skit! It could pay next semester’s tuition. Talk about turning the tables on the sleeze boyz! Keep pushing sleezos regardless of party affiliation.

  20. 20 butler

    Very good work. In our imperfect world, your work is really educative. Knuckle-draggers are much too prevalent in American life.

  21. 21 mike

    You’re funny Eddie. You’re upset that “Republicans can’t win on the issues,” so you’re a big fan of a dick who runs up and screams, “did you spit on your first wife?” Apparently THAT is an issue. You people are fucking monkeys.

  22. 22 Independent Erik

    “Republicans will maintain majorities in both houses”- Mike at 10:58 AM

    I hope to God you have the balls to come back to this site on Nov. 8th. Go away and help the Allen campaign, maybe you can help that sinking ship out.

  23. 23 Sean

    Poor mike, so how goes the grooming of that 11yr old I saw you with last week? Another GOP child predator in action…

  24. 24 Ian

    ccrash,
    Yet another right winger playing the ….but Clinton… act. You want to talk about criminal financial dealings, look up Harkin Energy & George W Bush. And Clinton didn’t need Mike to stalk him, he had Kennith Starr and the grande inquisition.

    I still don’t see how you guys bring up Clintons sexual asides. HE GOT A BJ, not that big a deal in the grand scheme. Bush lied us into A WAR and bullies like Allen did and still do cheer him on, get some perspective!

    The pols on the left are no angels, but the devil is a republican.

  25. 25 Mike's Biggest Fan

    Dearest Right-Wing Special Friend Mike,

    As I read your words here, I almost feel as if you are here with me, tonight, under the same stars, watching the moon sweep overhead.

    You say we are monkeys, we of the left…and that we are. Your sweet, sweet monkeys of love.

    Your words are like the sweetest nepenthe, pouring off the screen like tart golden wine. So strong…so very manly. So…well…tumescent. If I were gay, I’d would totally rock your fugdeways all night long.

    Kisses,

    Mike’s Biggest Fan

  26. 26 mike

    Poor Erik… Every election cycle the media hypes up democrats, and every election cycle democrats go down in flames. This will be no different. You will pick up maybe 11 house seats and 2 or 3 in the senate. So yes, I’ll be back to laugh at you on the 8th. But at least you’ll be able to send your black pets out to claim that they were disenfranchised again.

  27. 27 Mike's Biggest Fan

    “But at least you’ll be able to send your black pets out to claim that they were disenfranchised again.”

    Mmmmm. There’s that crunchy racism that Republicans are known for.

    (You forgot to call someone a fag.)

  28. 28 Mike's Biggest Fan

    mike (the sexy right-wing one):

    Do yo have a mullet?

  29. 29 Jeff

    MIKEY SAID: “so you’re a big fan of a dick who runs up and screams, “did you spit on your first wife?”

    Mikey, Mikey, Mikey….Everyone here has watched the video, son. Trying to characterize what happened as Stark running up and screaming a question is just plain contemptable, and provides further proof of how weak your position is.

    Tfe fact of the matter is that Mike was calm in his actions, WALKED up to the group around the candidate, and members of Allen’s team attempted to block his access.

    Throughout the entire interraction with the Senator, Stark, in a regular tone, asking the Senator why he would not release 2 arrest records.

    At that point, an Allen aide shoved Stark back, saying that’s it…you need to leave now.

    Stark asked the aide if he was with the hotel, and the aide said no, and pushed him again.

    At that point, a second Allen aide ran over , grabbed sStark and put him in a wrestling headlock.

    Both aides then attempted to forcibly remove stark, grabbing him and pushing him towards an exit.

    When stark was pushed several yards from Allen, he THEN yelled a question to Allen about reports of Allen spitting on his first wife.

    At that point, the bald Allen aide angerly said “Now you are getting personal” throwing Stark to the ground, and striking a plate glass window in the process.

    At no point in the melee did Stark ever attempt to grab or strike anyone. The Allen aides were the aggressors from the start.

  30. 30 Dr. J

    I heard you are suing for being put in a headlock heckling George Allen. Are you a sissy? How about acting like a man and not a lawyer.

    Is your sister Melissa Stark from UVA/ESPN?

  31. 31 Jeff

    Methinks Mikey will be frothing at the mouth Wednesday morning…he has done nothing to prepare himself for the bloodbath Republicans are facing, and is currently living in a hopeless state of denial over the severity of the situation. Wednesday morning, Mikey’s mom will find him in his basement bedroom curled in the fetal position, rocking back and forth sobbing

  32. 32 Gregor

    Oh no! Mikey’s been outed as the lunatic liar that he is! What’s the matter? You didn’t see THIS camera while you were “attacking” a US Senator?

    http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008419.php

  33. 33 bacci40

    obscurity? too late mike….you are now a part of the political story…and good for you

  34. 34 mike

    Jeffy jeffy jeffy, you’re just so pathetic. Even IF democrats manage to win, it will be based ENTIRELY on dislike of Bush and the situation in Iraq. You have NOTHING else. You have no platform whatsoever that you can run on in the future. And democrats seem perfectly happy with that!! Who cares if we have no ideas, nothing positive, nothing to retain any majority that we might win… It’s almost laughable. Your leadership is in hiding because the party is terrified of showing the real face of the democratic party - nut jobs like pelosi and dean - and you like a group of desperate con-artists, praying that you can fool people long enough to make a quick score. I can understand you being giddy over this election because you haven’t won SHIT in 12 years, but even in a best case scenario for democrats, you have nothing to look forward to but a hollow shortlived victory.

  35. 35 bacci40

    mike, any platform that doesnt include a never ending war and tax breaks for the super wealthy is a heck of alot better than what you wingnuts have sold to america the past 6 years

    even gridlock is perferred

    spin this election any way you want (shoot, the dems did in 94) but you guys have fucked up

    newt got you into power spewing change cleaning up congress and smaller government…and what do we have now?

  36. 36 kat

    Thanks for posting those videos Mike. I sure everyone has been on pins and needles waiting for the whole story to come out. Some of the trolls have even left yeah!!

  37. 37 Clayton

    Uh, lemme see… You want arrest records for George Allen. Understandable. We wouldn’t want to find out he didn’t pay his parking tickets, or was responsible for someone’s death, eh?

    And uh, how do you feel about being involved with the party of Ted Kennedy? Were you a resident of Massachusetts, can I surmise that you’d be supporting him?

    Of course I can.

    You’re rather full of shit.

  38. 38 Sawbuck

    Dear God - another asshole 1L.

    This country produces you like maggots on a rotting corpse. You DO love the sound of your own voice you sanctimonious halfwit.

    There is about a nickel’s worth of difference between Allen and Webb. And less of a difference between you and an intestinal parasite - oh wait - the parasite needs to do what it does for the sake of survival - and your excuse is?

    You are not part of the solution, no matter how you rationalize being a boor.

  39. 39 mike

    Can you spare us the class warfare for 2 seconds? So what if the wealthy get tax breaks? What the fuck does that have to do with you? I’m sick of the poor not paying ANY fucking taxes. How about that? I’m sick of the democrats welfare state, and schools with $200,000,000 budgets that can provide everything from breakfast to daycare to wishy washy diversity classes, but can’t get 50% of the students to read at the appropriate level. I’m sick of defeatist democrats who don’t think America can or should win any war. I’m sick of the idiotic ivory tower phony intellectualism that makes everything morally relavent. And spare me your never ending war bullshit. These fucking sand mutts have been attacking us for decades. Bush is the first president to actually try to end the war that nobody acknowledged before 9/11. The surest way to ensure that this war will never end is to elect cowardly democrats who will embolden terrorists by presenting a weak America. I almost hope you idiots win the white house in 08. Your weak spined response to the next 9/11 will be the end of the democratic party once and for all.

  40. 40 ILuvPolitics

    Mr. Stark had previously stated his intent to stir up something……I guess he got what he wanted. You have to give the old geezer who put him down some credit. Stark probably needs to lay off of the Twinkies and buy a bow-flex!!!

  41. 41 darylj

    Bleat, trolly, bleat. Show us your hatred, your prejudice, your racism. Attack the straw men your wingnut “heroes” have spent years setting up, since you wouldn’t be able to face a real human being spewing from your hate-hole like you do. Just know that Democrats can run on their convictions and win. Republicans can’t run on their convictions, since most of them are 3-5 years.

    Do us all a favor on Nov. 8, when the fairy tale in your addled little brain fails to come true. Have the courage to pull the trigger, you useless sack of shit.

  42. 42 Jeff

    Come now, Mikey…do you kiss your mother with that potty mouth? Are we supposed to be IMPRESSED that you have mastered cursing, or is it that you, like the Allen aide, have a total inability to show any social restraint?

    Act like an adult and make your point civilly. If you continue to act like a child, we are going to start treating you like a child. Get the message?

  43. 43 mike

    Uh oh, Daryl just got his welfare check yesterday and the colt 45 is getting the best of him.

  44. 44 Jeff

    IWUVPOLITICS SAID: Stark probably needs to lay off of the Twinkies and buy a bow-flex!!!”

    Tough words coming from someone who cheers the party led by Dennis Hastert…A man who, unlike his cohort, Mark Foley,looks at a Congressional Page and thinks “GET IN MAH BELLY!”

    Hastert’s so fat that when he sits around the house, he REALLY sits AROUND the house.

    I mean, seriously…the man cut himself shaving last week and GRAVY came out.

    We are talking about a man who, even if he wasn’t a congressman, is so friggin’ HUGE that he would probablly warrent being assigned his OWN congressional district.

  45. 45 Jeff

    Mikey has finally stepped from the DENIAL to ANGER phase in his grieving over the downfall of neo-conservitivism. Next, he’ll start barganing, followed by depression, and then ultimately acceptance. Mikey is in serious need of an intervention…too bad he has no friends.

  46. 46 XStryker

    I love how people think poor people don’t pay taxes, when they pay sales tax like everyone else (including illegal immigrants).

    Hey wingnuts, keep up the pressure on Mike Stark! The more time you spend commenting on a liberal blog, the less time you have to do anything that could have any effect whatsoever on the massive beating you guys are going to take at the polls next Tuesday. Democrats will win, and conservative idiots like George Allen, Conrad Burns, Marilyn Musgrave, Barbara Cubin, Vera Drake, and Jean Schmidt will lose. Colorado, Montana, and Kansas are all going Democratic; history is on our side (history is always on the side of progressives fighting conservatives). Every year will get worse for your side, because God is on ours. Yes, God supports helping the poor, healing the sick, and telling the truth. Check how often these are mentioned in the bible, as opposed to abortion (not mentioned), homosexuality (3 mentions), and flag burning (not mentioned). You’d think after 2000 years you guys would get the picture!

  47. 47 mike

    yawn… See ya on the 8th when you’re all here passing around lame excuses and conspiracy theories.

  48. 48 Kyle

    I don’t believe using antagonism is right path to the truth. Mike Stark feels he is justified in the tactics he uses but unfortunately, in my opinion, he is wrong. This way of politicking became the tool of the so called “peace movement” in the Viet Nam era and look where that has gotten us today. Liberals are no longer and the Republicans have fallen from the “Republic for which they stand.”

    It really amazes me how much the “Left” and “Right” hate each other. The Republicans feel so moral and the Democrats think they are smarter and more enlightened. This site is more proof of that.

    The baby boomers are to blame for the sudden erosion of our moral fabric and no argument can cover this fact up.

    A lot of our problems in society can be directly related to the breakdown in the family structure here in America. You need a father to be a good provider and a partner. He shows his sons and daughters what it is to be a man, how to respect others and how to stand up for oneself. He also shows how to treat women with dignity and how to be a leader. The mother, nurturing, loving and sensitive, she is also strong and independent when needed. Together both parents provide for the children and teach good values and morals and no you don’t have to be a bible thumper to teach what is right and wrong. This is the way it is supposed to be whether you believe in God or Evolution.

    I’m tired of people saying that things are broken in America. Things were just fine the way they were but the boomers decided that they did not want to live by the rules. They wanted free love and the freedom of choice to be idiots. They have passed that mentality on to the next generation and to the generation after that. Each time we get more lazy and stupid. They have been breaking things since the 60’s.

    Become an independent thinker and stop buying in to the B.S. that is being pushed down your throat by your parents from both sides of the political fence, left and right. Study your history and think about how our founding fathers would feel about today’s society. I know they would be disgusted. Think about what you can do to get us back to where we used to be as a nation without of course, racism, inequality and big government. Name calling and pointing fingers at others is not the answer. If you must point a finger then point it at yourself.

    Yes the problems of today were caused by the people of yesterday but only you can change what happens tomorrow.

    Thank you for reading

    Kyle.

  49. 49 Nathan Scott

    You are one disturbed asshole! Sounds like to me that since your mother died, you don’t have a woman to suck your dick! So now you take it out on a great man like George Allen…we need to send people like you to Guantanamo Bay to live with your fellow terrorists and even, practice some tortue techniques on you to use later on real men!

  50. 50 kat

    If the trolls are so supportive of their party why don’t they have the guts to go out and work for it 5 days before the election. Mike Stark is an example to all of us. We need to do something during this election, instead of just sitting back and criticizing others actions. So trolls, and you know who you are, you aren’t doing any good here, you won’t convince anyone here to change their vote, get out of your jammies and march down to Republican headquarters and volunteer.

  51. 51 allenneedsanewjob

    Mikey

    Seems the Mad Dog 20/20 is wearing off and you have not had a educated thought since you have started bloging on this site since 10:58am. I would suggest you go back to night school and get that GED or maybe volunteer for George Allen as a speech writer with the 4 letter words you use to articulate your thoughts. I think you would fit right in as a staffer.

  52. 52 tony marques

    To mIKE (who posted the first response)

    Look up the mean of the word “projection” as it relates to psychology.

    What I was getting at is that YOU must not be getting laid a lot and it makes you nuts. Therefore, when you see someone do something YOU think is nuts, in your eyes, they must not be getting laid.

    PS I dont have a sister, but I do have a dog. You must be mistaking my dog for my sister. Its understandable. You take what you can get.

  53. 53 Clayton

    Yeah, the poor pay sales taxes. And they also get an earned-income tax credit. Which means they walk away with another entitlement. From my pocket to theirs.

    Spending time on Mike Stark? I’m sure it strokes his ego. After all, in the minds of some, even bad attention is better than none at all.

    Massive beating?

    Too funny. Perhaps a beating, but nearly every poll (what we use to measure these things att this point) barely beat the margin of error. Alas, really stoopid people seem to get really wrapped up in their own emotions as if it were fact. Keep it up.

    It’s close enough that you should consider that your side could also lose. Like 2000? Ha ha ha. Yoose guys just never got over that, did you? Ha ha ha.

    History is always on the side of progressives fighting conservatives? Remember 2004? Gawd - what a fantasy life you must lead. Know any good farm animal stories? I’m all ears.

    Oh, and God is on your side. Yet yoose fellows seem to hate the conservatives that rally around their religion. For heathens such as myself, I’ll just have to say that that is confusing and let it drop.

    Helping the poor? By subsidizing their life for life? Such a nice guy. You’d think teaching them to fish instead of just giving them fish would be an idea worth looking into.

    On second thought, no you wouldn’t.

    Telling the truth… About how God is on your side. Uh, okay. And since abortion isn’t mentioned in the Bible (I’ll take your word for it), truth is that it’s perfectly acceptable to kill your children when you’re just not up for allowing the little boogers to grow up and become tax-paying fellow comrades.

    And gosh, homosexuality got three mentions? That three more times than I’ve ever given a shit about it. Except to say, don’t confuse my marriage with the idea that two homos can be married. We all know what marriage is, and that ain’t it. Look into it, please. You sound like you just arrived on this planet.

    I have the picture. You’re a liberal that hasn’t had a rational thought since your teachers brainwashed you into thinking that Democrats were for the little people (how quaint). Which is what you are when you’re young and dumb. Little people. And they taught you that evil rich Republicans got that way by stealing from the poor (the logic of that escapes me), and want to hurt everyone by poisoning the water and beating up niggers. Well, I’m not rich. I don’t beat up niggers. And hell, I drink water.

    And I have a little pity for the really stoopid. Not much, but at least I don’t shoot them anymore - yer safe!

  54. 54 Island Dave

    Mike Stark has gone out on a limb to push stories that the media has ignored. You might think his methods are brash or aggressive, but he’s been careful to stay within the law and get his point across in a significant way. Without Mike and people like Mike, you can bet the GOP would not be facing the prospect of losing Congress and would continue to avoid any notion of accountability. Keep giving em hell, Mike!

  55. 55 Jeff

    Clayton…we are having a little trouble understanding what you are trying to say. Maybe we could hear you a little clearer if you took that pointy white hood off for a moment.

  56. 56 Clayton

    My, aren’t you cleaver.

  57. 57 Independent Erik

    Clayton, I used to think that nobody deserved cancer. Now I know I was wrong.

  58. 58 shan

    I weeped in anger, but I was also so proud of you.

    Continued good luck with your studies, and if you ever run for office, I’ll be glad to contribute to your campaign. Or if there’s a Mike Stark defense fund.

  59. 59 brad

    Lee Harvey Oswald was a marine too Mike. And the pictures of the incident clearly show YOU initiating the violence. Why don’t you just apologize for being such an annoying human being? http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008419.php

  60. 60 OSL8

    Mike, it would be a shame for this site to become defunct. I can contribute by absorbing the hosting and tech support fees. Perhaps some of your readers will volunteer to keep hammering away at Limbaugh, O’Reilly and the rest of the propagandists?

  61. 61 Wake Up America!

    Good Job Mike - you are doing what MOST Americans will not do - YOUR RESEARCH. Do not listen to these fools who want to bash you and pull you down. At least you are standing up for what you know is RIGHT.

    Most people (especially the ones with these STUPID negative posts) do not have the drive nor the GUTS to do the work you are doing. Most people (same people as above) want to sit back and wait for others to do it ‘for them.’ You are rare these days .. not too many people realize that it is “we the people” that are SUPPOSED to run this Country - not the sleezy politicians.(most of them anyway)

    What most of you do not “get” is that they are ALL THE SAME. It does not matter if it is a Dem or a Rep in office! Please get through your heads. They BOTH work for the same people.

    If you really want to see what is happening in America - you need to watch “America: Freedom to Fascism” - it is FREE on GOOGLE. Over 170,000 people have viewed it in less than a week. It is powerful and you will think of your Gov’t in a differnet way - if you are still one that believes one is better than the other.

    WAKE UP AMERICA! We are losing this Country! Soon (very soon), you nor Mike will be able to speak out without being JAILED or worse.

  62. 62 Kyle

    kat wrote
    Nov 2nd, 2006 at 3:36 pm

    “If the trolls are so supportive of their party why don’t they have the guts to go out and work for it 5 days before the election. Mike Stark is an example to all of us. We need to do something during this election, instead of just sitting back and criticizing others actions. So trolls, and you know who you are, you aren’t doing any good here, you won’t convince anyone here to change their vote, get out of your jammies and march down to Republican headquarters and volunteer.”

    Yes Mike is an example but not the best. What have you done to help your team? I think using the word “troll” was meant to be an insult, right? Sounds like you are doing exactly what you are telling others not to do, “criticizing others.” Maybe you should take a step back from the liberal trough and think for yourself instead of following the heard of the cliff.

    That goes for all you so called Republican too. Stop drinking the cool-aid you are being served.

    Vote common sense and not your party. Use rational thought and logic when making your decision on Tuesday.

    Thank you for reading.

    Kyle.

  63. 63 Clayton

    Erik…

    Cancer? Really?

    How bizarre. Well, at least you call yourself an Independent. Can’t imagine hearing that from a leftist. They’re the tolerant ones, you know. Wishing cancer on somebody is pretty tough - I’ll have to watch my back around yo fellows. And here I just thought you guys were too shallow to take a real stand on things, preferring the self-assumed ‘higher road’. Always busy looking at the issues, the individuals, etc. Now I find that you’re into pushing cancer of folks. Hell, I hope the leftists don’t trip on their one step ascension on the old ladder of life.

    I have to ask, just what it is that pushed you over the edge. Was is my sarcastic use of the infamous ‘n’ word? You do understand sarcasm, eh? Or my lack of understanding how folks could choose to kill their own children. Perhaps you could enlighten me - I’m all ears.

    Well, not really. But, I can read. Perhaps you’d like to dissect a statement or two of my flippant screed, and set me straight. Only, it wasn’t so flippant. I’ll not count on you doing that, though. But I will remember to examine a couple of moles I’ve got, and be on the lookout for any strange lumps or rashes. Gads. Cancer.

    Man, it ain’t like I just hurled insults and resorted to vulgar language. Unless you consider me laughing about the folks that can’t seem to get over the fact that Bush won in 2000 (albeit a small margin). You Shirley realize that that is one hearty laugh, and that yes, I’d do it in your face were I to run into at a wine tasting or perhaps a poolhall.

    Your choice - as you can probably tell, I’m comfortable discussing politics anywhere. Which would explain why I wandered into this dude’s joint. But I’d really love you (or anyone else, for that matter) to take something I said and give me an opposing view of it.

    I’ll hold my breath until I hear back, okay?

  64. 64 Wake Up America!

    I did not leave the link to watch the movie FREE on GOOGLE. You can click on WAKE UP AMERICA! above as well. If you all do not know what is hapening to this country - Under our noses - please watch this film.

    And, thank you again Mike for standing up for what you feel is right. You have guts - which some of these other people who want to bash you probably do not have.

    Google FREE: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&q=

    Or just go to www.justwatchthemovie.com and click on the icon. Get involved - do something about it - like Mike is.

  65. 65 kat

    Kyle,

    A troll is someone who deliberately goes to blogs of the oposite party and tries to provoke. The term is what it is just a term like any other used in the blogosphere. I used the term instead of calling them by name.

    You don’t know me so you probably didn’t know that I’ve been volunteering in politics for over 30 years. This year I started in May and continue through the election. My point in calling out the trolls was to give them the idea that they are not wanted here. There are plenty of places for them to go. We’ve always had a quiet space here where people respect each other, I hope in a few days it will be back to normal.

  66. 66 kat

    Mike, I just saw you on Tucker..great job turning him around with humor. You must watch him now and then to be able to figure out how he works. I was also impressed at the way you corrected the “heckler” tag. More people who appear on these shows need to be honest and not let things pass just because they are on tv..that’s how the media gets things wrong..not enough people correct them when they have the chance.

  67. 67 Clayton

    So, Mr. Kat?

    If someone wanders in with differing opinions, and isn’t part of the mutual admiration society that is present, is he (or she) a troll?

    I’m here to provoke, in that I’d like to provoke a reasonable response to a few things. That doesn’t label me a troll, does it?

    Gads. A troll. With cancer. After a bit of makeup on the part of the undertaker, I’ll be one of the few folks that have ever heard folks walk by my casket and say ‘hey, he looks pretty good’.

  68. 68 SchoenSchoen

    Really, it’s only a matter of time until Rush and O’Rielly get invaded and /b/lockaded anyway.

    Keep up the good work, Mike. The Commonwealth owes you one.

  69. 69 Anonymous

    What I find remarkable is the level of vitrol that one would steep to in trying to advance the claims of one of two lackluster political parties. I can understand the socialist or the reactionary who goes apopleptic, but win or lose you are talking about a tiny change in the political landscape. The phenomenon of the stark raving moderate befuddles me.

    Regardless of whether you think that Stark was assaulted or guilty of assault, this is not going to be the nail in Allen’s coffin. Stark (until three months ago a New Yorker) snuck into an Allen fundraiser wearing an Allen button (to hell, I guess, with that Honor Code) and ambushed a Senator with a disgusting and unsubstantiated accusation about his personal life, one refuted by Allen’s first wife. Stark is in his late thirties, so nobody has the same “poor bullied college student” sympathy that they had for Sidarth. He expressed an intention to provoke Allen and has harrassed him before in the name of “guerrilla journalism” (though somehow I doubt this is what Ida Tarbell and Horace Greeley had in mind). The so-called assault is perpetrated by a man who looks at least sixty. You couldn’t conjure up a less sympathetic figure than Stark, and yet the posters here are elated. This was not heroic, this was pathetic. Virginia voters, no matter their political allegiance, will see it as such.

  70. 70 spion
  71. 71 spion
  72. 72 Jeff

    Clayton…you are a Hannity listener. Am I correct?

  73. 73 solon3000

    Does anyone know if the three goons, have been identified/located/arrested?

    If they are still, at large; would it be a crime to harbor them? Loyal GOP goons like that, are not going to be total strangers. Some of the Allens people must know their names. Would witholding their names from a police investigation, be a crime?

    Proud of you Mike. Good luck, with your studies.

  74. 74 becker

    Fight the good fight soldier. Dont listen to the nay-sayers. Stand up for your belief in a democratic America. Sometimes you just have to take a beating. And remember– if you aren’t pissing people off, you are doing something wrong.

  75. 75 Pauly

    Wow, there are some really lame, cowardly and, quite frankly, disgusting cheap-shots above, from both sides.

    Thank you Kyle, I like your philosophy and level headedness.

    And to the guy who offered to eat the costs of Mike’s site, good on you, I hope you come through with your promises. It is good to see new thoughts on the site, but lets calm down people. We all saw Mike on Olbermann last night and immediately jumped back onto his website.

    Here’s my big fear, my two cents, my conspiracy theory paranoia:

    The Dems will take both houses, then, quite remarkably sometime before the ‘08 elections, something terrible will again happen. Then Rove can promote his long-planned “See, we told you so” campaign.

    Keep it up. Mike.

  76. 76 nathan

    Notice how the moonbat nutters here ignore the evidence (links above to CQ and HotAir) that Stark, marine or not, deserved the smackdown that he got.

  77. 77 nathan

    that should be ‘former marine’ cause there is no way this fat bastard is still serving.

  78. 78 gungadin

    OOooooo! Puncher Carlson is a tough guy eh?
    He’s going to punch Mike out. Sounds like an invitation to me.
    Hey Puncher Carlson…you SUCK ASS TOO!
    You suck FOX ASS.

  79. 79 scotus

    Mike, it is clear that you do not appreciate the historical wisdom of the George Allen camp who realize that we can learn even from our enemies, in this case, the Brownshirts of the Third Reich. George Allen is a United States Senator, an exalted personage, and more important, he is a Republican, the party invested with and informed by superior moral character. For you to ask questions that might impugn the senator’s character is un-American and clearly places you on the side of the terrorists. The Allen people–who interestingly enough seemed to have at least two of their number enrobed with brown shirts or suits–had every right to take you out by force when you attempted to question the senator about alledgedly unsavory aspects of his past. Be warned! If the Republicans can prevail in this election and control both houses again, there will be no place in America for you and the likes of you. The Patriot Act will be used where it does the most good.

  80. 80 justice58

    Mike

    I watched you on Tucker and I didn’t like Tucker’s attitude and the questions that he asked you. Tucker is a complete jerk. If it was anyone else, Tucker would have been all over the Allen staff about the outrageousness of what they did. Stick it to them any which way you can. Keep asking the tough questions and good luck.

  81. 81 Rheinhard

    spion - This word “assault”, I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Michelle Malagagaklanag lickspittle Hotair posts a series of photos of Mike … walking through a doorway! Aha! The smoking gun is revealed!

    Sorry, just looks to me like the Allen lardass was trying to block Mike from asking a question, and Mike managed to barely squeeze past him. Maybe Sen. Macacawitz needs some slimmer staffers.

    And I seem to have missed where Mike wrestles the guy to the floor and throws him against a plat glass window. But I’m sure “Allahpundit” will have that photoshopped up right quick.

  82. 82 Clayton

    Jeff,

    I’ve listened to the guy Sean Hannity) over the years. But his show conflicts with two other far superior guys. Ron Smith of WBAL, and Jerry Doyle, who is syndicated.

    As to their TV show - now and then.

    Your point?

    I scanned above, btw, and saw where you were implying that this Stark character was acting like a choirboy with his hand raised patiently waiting to be called on? Perhaps you’ve now had a chance to review the pics of him elbowing his way in. Oh, well. The ends justify the means, eh? Probably what the ‘brownshirts’ were thinking when they decided they liked children just fine, but this one wasn’t one of theirs. Enough is enough.

    And some chump from New York comes down here to get involved in state politics after a three month stay? Probably couldn’t find Richmond with a map. A chump. Have you checked out the rest of his site? Sorry, but I gots to chuckle.

    And the pointy hood remark? First, you need to read up on sarcasm. Some of us aren’t afraid to use the so-called ‘n’ word. That doesn’t mean we’ve got anything agains black folks - except that until they can tell me just what part of Africa they’re truly from, they’d better not use the African-American crap around me. Spare me.

    And second? Enslaving (pardon the pun) the poor illiterate black folks into years of welfare has done nothing good for them. Nothing. It only gets worse when you look at the American Indian - but that’s for another day. I’m sure you’ve heard about giving a man a fish or teaching him to fish… Yada yada. So much truth in that one, eh? Oh yeah, he says. Great, when you own a sporting goods store and - nevermind. I’m sure there’s a reason liberals don’t get it. They’re liberals.

    But hey, if you give a man a coat, you’ll keep him warm for awhile. But, set a man on fire? He’ll stay warm for the rest of his life!

    Don’t call me a racist with your KKK crapola. You may think you look clever, but until you refute something I’ve said, you’re of no more worth that the folks who’s only response to anything, is ‘Bush Lied’. Dismissed immediately, by anyone with half a brain.

  83. 83 Jeff

    Clayton…I am sorry if this hurts your feelings, but you have proven to be a brainwashed jerk, and not even worthy of further response. I don’t converse with people who believe that there is ANY appropriate time to be racist. Forgive me, but I am not here to change your mind…I could care less about your opinions. My mission is to kick idiots like you in the ass, and get you flustered and angry enough to expose to others what your agenda is, and what you really are…not what you PRETEND to be. Mission accomplished. You may go now.

  84. 84 Kyle

    Kat….

    Thank you for your respectful response. I “wish upon a star” that the disrespect would discontinue forever and not just after elections. Key word, “wish.”

    Thank you for reading

    Kyle.

  85. 85 Anonymous

    Is there something innately noble about calling someone a fascist or a racist because you’re so insular and self-contained that the sight of an opposing viewpoint is not merely disagreeable but incomprehensible? The worst part is that you are the same people that believe Bush is responsible for the polarization of this country; as though he devised these online echo chambers and affixed “Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot” to your bumper.

    The so-called photoshopped images (a convenient accusation when the truth doesn’t mesh with your chosen narrative), when viewed from both angles, suggest that Stark shoved the gentleman in the process of getting through the doorway. His conduct might satiate your appetites, but it was clearly deceitful as he sported an Allen pin to gain entrance to an Allen event, a contradiction of the Honor Code to which every UVA student agrees. If he attempts to press charges against the gentlemen who wrestled him down he will (and should) face a response in kind. The only reason you are complaining about Tucker Carlson is because he and Stark didn’t have the same sort of hugfest that the contemptible Olbermann hosted the night before.

  86. 86 Tucker Carlson's Dog

    Hey Mike, I saw some still photos of some gestapo trying to keep you out to begin with. This was open to the public correct? What was the matter, you weren’t in a “Free Speech Zone”? These KKKaracters are republican repulsives.

    Hannity still SUCKS ASS!
    http://www.thumbsnap.com/v/8tOHxFP6.jpg

    LOL:
    http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006/08/you_can_say_tha.html

  87. 87 Michael in St. Louis

    Hey, all you asshole wingnuts who say things like “Stark’s a pussy for whining to the cops…. blah blah blah”, tell me something- if Stark, who is apparently a former marine, or someone else had, say, punched Allen’s goons in the throat as they came at him, or effectively defended himself in any other way, how much would you be freaking out about deranged lunatics, aggressive liberal moonbats, blah blah blah?

    You guys are all a bunch of useless bags of cocksnot- if someone takes it into their own hands, you freak, if they go through the legal process, you deride.

    Personally, I’m looking forward to the next time some republican asshole starts trying to throw their weight around near me. You guys are all kinds of tough when there are lots of you, but whining little shits one on one.

    Mike, take these guys all the way, and yeah, make them pay your tuition. Student loans are a bitch, and if you don;t have to worry about paying them off after law school, you’ve got all kinds of freedom professionally. Good luck.

  88. 88 POW/MIA

    Kyle, you’re a fucking moron.

    I respect your RIGHT to have an opinion, but I’m not going to lie and say it has any basis in the realm of reality.

    Moron.

  89. 89 Jeff

    I have a challenge for all the conservitive Allen supporters trolling the board.

    Do us a big favor….could you please list the type questions that you believe warrant the questioner being physically thrown to the ground for asking? How violent and how far up the food chain should this behavior go? If it is appropriate to be thrown to the ground for asking a senator if he spit on his wife, How about a Governor….Would the appropriate response to asking a Governor if he sleeps with boys be a good hard kick in th nuts, followed by a broken wrist? Should a sitting president be able to have a citizen kneecapped for asking if he withheld intellegence from congress that resulted in America going into an unnecessary war?

    All of you Allen defenders miss a vital point. What Mike asked Allen wasn’t the story…If Allen’s team responded civilly, there would have been no issue. The story was not the question itself, or even the questioner…the story was the RESPONSE OF THE ALLEN STAFF to the question.

    The response to the question was out of line…and the fact that Allen did not have enough sense to tell his people to just ignore the question, or walk away, or let it go, speaks volumes about his character.

    HE IS A UNITED STATES SENATOR for chrissakes. If he cannot control his staff enough to avoid unnecessary violence, then it leads people to believe that he is either not in control of his staff, or he condones the action.

    Get your heads out of your collective asses. Mike Stark is not the one running for office….George Allen is.

  90. 90 Clayton

    Clayton…I am sorry if this hurts your feelings, but you have proven to be a brainwashed jerk, and not even worthy of further response.

    Hurt my feelings? A liberal? Shirley you jest. Brainwashed? Perhaps if you could have just taken one itsy bitsy piece of my screed - and even commented on it. Much less refuted it. No, my brain is fine. And you couldn’t hurt my feelings if you worked really really hard at it. You’re a liberal.

    I don’t converse with people who believe that there is ANY appropriate time to be racist.

    Hey, I’ll go one further - not that anything I said should be construed to be racist - but the Islamic Extremists that we’re all so worried about offending, lest they get really really mad and blow up another bunch of evil capitalists who were merely putting in another day? I don’t even consider them human. Sub human at best. They’re for the most part illiterate religous fanatics that would willingly die to merely put a dent in our armor. And gladly send their children off to do it as well. Racist? Me? Ha ha ha. Best you can do? Again - I don’t even consider them human. How’s that for racist? What are they, 1.8 billion? And what, about 1.8 million of ‘em can read? Well, you get my point. Soylent Green with some cumin and cayenne never looked so good.

    Forgive me, but I am not here to change your mind…I could care less about your opinions.

    Oh, you care. Just a little bit. Or you wouldn’t have posted anything. It’ll give you something to talk about as you wander around supporting people that think we can tax ourselves into prosperity. While you dream of a government program that can make you the equal of Donald Trump and that evil Bill Gates. And while you pat yourself on the back for being such a kind person - in the baby killer party that includes the likes of Ted Kennedy, Al Sharpton, Cindy Sheehan, et al.

    But, good to know that you realize you can’t change my opinion - you might, if you could actually address an issue (I brought up several, hoping you’d be cognizant of at least one or two). But, you’re smarter than me. You can’t prove it, but you are. Right? Of course I am. Nearly always.

    My mission is to kick idiots like you in the ass, and get you flustered and angry enough to expose to others what your agenda is, and what you really are…not what you PRETEND to be.

    Ah, but you failed to kick my ass. You called me a Klansman. BFD. What are you going to do next, call me a Nazi? Ooohh, no! And pretend to be? How about a gun-toting baby-starving knuckle-dragging neanderthal that just wants to be left alone and not served by yet another gov’t program that neither works, costs too much, was a bad idea in the first place, and is thrust upon me by socialists that can’t even admit they’re liberals. Much less Marxist commies.

    Really. I’ve seen better heads on beer, buddy. There’s a reason conservatives despise liberals such as yourself. And it’s not because you’re so fucking good at calling us names. We’re just hoping you don’t breed too much. There’s a use for your type, but we can really only afford so many.

    Mission accomplished. You may go now.

    Oh, yeah. I forgot. You’re still sitting there thinking you somehow ‘won’ this little exchange. Uh, right. I’ll do with you what I do with my five year old. I’ll let you win in the hopes that you don’t run away crying.

    I’ll drop back tommorrow, maybe. We’ve already given this asshole Mike far more than the fifteen minutes he’s due. And I don’t want to break it to you - but with nothing more than you’ve produced today… Well, don’t worry about looking at your watch. There ain’t gonna be no fifteen minutes for you.

    Gotta go. Gettin’ late, and I gotta get up early. Mission accomplished. Ha ha ha. Man, I skeeer the cat when I laugh in my sleep. Hurt my feelings… By what, inflating my already immense ego by once again demonstrating that I’ve got you liberals figured out? Whatever you say, pal. Whatever you say.

    Hey, are you any good at the game Trouble? Perhaps you could give me some pointers. The score is Lee 17, and daddy 2. Hey, at least he’s learning to count, eh?

    One two three four slash, one two three four slash, one two three four slash…

    Ha ha ha - ya been fun, boy. Now I really must retire.

  91. 91 Anonymous

    Michael

    First and foremost, online chest-thumping is stupid, as is calling someone a wingnut and a Republican asshole in the same sentence. It’s like hitting someone and then calling them violent. Second, Stark is clearly uninjured. Nobody is going to pay him punitive damages, so whether or not he’s ever set foot in his Torts class he should know he can’t recover without harm (and don’t imply harm to reputation, because he’s done that damage himself). Third, he was at a Republican fundraiser, passing himself off as an Allen supporter, and the still photos imply that he shoved someone to get through the doorway. The likelihood that he could demonstrate a preponderance of evidence, much less that a prosecutor could prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt, seems minimal.

  92. 92 Kirsten

    Oy freaking vey.

    In response to the pictures of the supposed ‘violence’ in the doorway between Stark and some short fat guy:

    Sure looks to me like he’s trying to squeeze past lard boy.

    It doesn’t matter if he’d yelled a curse at the asshole senator that his loins would shrivel and rot away. Words are not a good enough excuse for some random jerk to take down someone with differing views.

    Allen is a racist assmunch. Kudos to Stark.

  93. 93 Copernicus

    Hey Mikey,

    Anymore stunts? You haven’t realized this yet (probably too much beer) but everyone is laughing at you. What sick moron does what you do. Times up, only Mikey the Clown. Add some more rouge, red nose, and red hair. Can’t wait too get another laugh at the naive freshmen law student.

  94. 94 Tucker Carlson's Dog

    Tucker was pissed when he got home tonight.

  95. 95 Linda Long

    Mike,Mike Mike I just knew it had to be you I said you would make a name for your self and end up in Washington!
    You are so out of control I could not belive all I have read about you tonight!

  96. 96 Michael in St. Louis

    Anonymous-

    Well, I’ll agree with you that online chest-thumping is stupid. Doesn’t mean I won’t occasionally give in to the urge, but fuckit, nobody’s perfect. “Wingnut” and “asshole” go perfectly well together, though.

    As far as your legal analysis- well, let’s see what the Supreme Court of Virginia has to say:

    “Finally, we note that Bowie’s failure to allege that he suffered a physical injury is of no import to the analysis of whether Bowie stated a cause of action for assault because physical injury is not an element of the tort of assault. Carter, 269 Va. at 47, 606 S.E.2d at 841; see also Charles E. Friend, Personal Injury Law in *137 Virginia, 6.3.1 at 183 (3d ed. 2003) (”No actual contact is required for assault. Similarly, no physical injury need be involved.”). Rather, the resulting injury from assault is that the “threatening gesture, creating the apprehension, is … actionable without actual damage. It is, in effect, a form of mental injury which is being compensated.” Id. (Emphasis in original.)”

    That’s from sometime this year, Bowie v. Murphy 271 Va. 127, 624 S.E.2d 74

    Punitive damages are likely to be the bulk of anything he gets; with no real physical injury, there’s not a lot to compensate for. Whether he can get Allen under the theory the goons were acting as his agent, well, I wouldn;t bet against it. But I’m also too lazy to do any research on that right now.

    But anyway, the basis of battery is a harmful or offensive touching. Shit, you don;t even have touch the person, you can touch their clothes, or something in theor hand, and still be liable. requiring injury would allow for, I dunno, constant attacks by really, really ineffective assailants.

    And the goons don’t have the self defense, or defense of another, defense, either. Not sure about VA, but generally, that only applies insofar as you use only enough force to prevent the battery you’re defending against.

    And Stark’s presence at a GOP fundraiser has fuck-all to do with anything.

  97. 97 cajun

    Mr. Stark,

    You are a great American. Fuck these trolls.

  98. 98 Jim in Tampa

    Mike

    Good job - every GOTV call I make to VA this weekend will feature the thugs - thanks for calling out the dirtbags.

  99. 99 Gregorio

    All praise for revealing the Allen thug for what he is, a coward. He lets some jerks throw you to the floor for asking him questions he doesn’t like. That’s Tony Soprano’s approach to politics (no offense meant to Tony fans). I hope your lawsuit comes to trial. You handled yourself well. As a Marine, you did not use the force you are capable of toward Allen’s goon squad. But be certain that the days when Republican thugs can muscle the people around are coming to a close.

  100. 100 Anonymous

    The damages for an intentional tort are likely to be minimal or nonexistent absent a finding of harm, certainly not to the level of three years of law school eduation. As per the self-defense, they wouldn’t have to demonstrate that their action was commensurate to Stark’s original action. A man getting violent mere feet away from a sitting US Senator would seem to necessitate measures to restrain him, would it not? Somehow I doubt you’d be as upset if a right wing heckler…sorry, citizen journalist…got a little too close to Russ Feingold and was wrestled down in the process.

  101. 101 tony marques

    cLAYTON:

    You write well… for a turd.

  102. 102 tony marques

    cLAYTON:

    ps. Thank me.

  103. 103 Clayton

    Thanks.

    From a liberal (an assumption on my part), I’ll have to file that away where it belongs.

  104. 104 tony marques

    clayton,

    You’re still here? why dont you go play over at newsmax?

    Contrary to your assumption, I am not a liberal. I have voted for democrats and I have voted for republicans (based on whom I think is the better candidate).

    I must admit that I voted for George Bush 41, but I voted against george bush 43. I saw him for the idiot baffoon that he is that minute that I first laid eyes on him.

    I still cant believe that it took this great nation 6 years for 61% of the people to see what I first saw 9 years ago.

    But something tells me you still belong to the 39% that believes he is god. Am I correct? Thank me.

  105. 105 tony marques

    clayton,
    I also voted for Christie Todd Whitman instead of Jim Florio. What does that make me?

  106. 106 Clayton

    Oh, a moderate. More disdain for that type of folk than the loonies of the left. They’re not as sanctimonious. Just nuts.

    Yeah, well. I voted for Jimmy Carter. I was young and dumb, and then I grew up. That idiot buffoon (Carter) would still be trying the appeasment game were he in charge of anything more important than his bowels at this point. Worked well then, works well now - not.

    What you first saw 9 years ago? Ha ha ha.
    There’s that sanctimonious thing, bringing you down again. Lemme guess - Bush is stoopid, and only got us into this thing for his big oil buddies. Oh, and he lied. Makes sense to me. Get your news from the John Stewart daily show? Better than Katie Couric, I suppose.

    39% believe he is God? Wow.

    Nah, he’s way to liberal for me to ever put him on a pedestal. Besides, no dress to look up.

    And what’s with you and the thanks and all that? I mean, I’m thankful I’m not related to you. Thankful even that you’re not messing with my farm animals. But thankful you’re out there posing as a target with a big ‘I am Stupid’ sign hanging from your neck? Nah, some things I just take for granted.

  107. 107 Clayton

    clayton,
    I also voted for Christie Todd Whitman instead of Jim Florio. What does that make me?

    Uh, a sanctimonious twerp who lives in one of the armpits of the nation?

  108. 108 pvogel

    This being Mike starks blog, and he is trhe man of the hour, its no wonder the nazi goon republican trolls have made it over here to assault him again, via hate male.

    Nov 7th will be judgement day. The terminator told me so. The nazis will be kicked out.

    George allen will get his pathetic 43% of the vote, and he will get retirement fer sure.

    On nov 7, the weather fcst is for sunshine in Democratic NOVA, and a rainy, dismal day down in the southside, Allens stronghold!!!!

  109. 109 pvogel

    Hola again. Tomorrow sat nov 4th, interstate van lines, burke va, 830am, show up with the spit signs, and wear protestive vests, cause the allen red meat crowd will be there.

  110. 110 Clayton

    I are confused. The title of this joint is Calling All Wingnuts - and yet you expect it to be some sort of mutual admiration society?

  111. 111 ccrashh

    To Ian:

    How did you come to the conclusion that I was right-wing? I simply asked how biased Mike was.

    To Freddy…

    I was using Clinton was simply an example….of course it isn’t relevant now.

    However, I wasn’t talking about a BJ from Monica…I was talking about the women who accused him of sexual assault. Not that they had any credibility.

    The Democrats are as fucked up as the Republicans…if not more so in some ways. Specifically targeting one group over the other does no one a service.

  112. 112 Blue Patriot

    Clayton,
    You sound like a ’salt of the earth’ type of guy, so let me put it to you in terms you’ll agree with.
    Would you buy a used car from Bush or Cheney? Would you trust them when they said that Bar’ only drove it Sunday to and from church, and that they didn’t pack the transmission full of oil and sawdust?
    Me either. The GOP sold you and me out when they pulled that Richie Rich out of TX and paraded him as a better of men that went to war for this country. He’s a fraud, and men like Allen know it, and don’t care. George Felix Allen is in it for the power, and screw you and and me.
    Wise up, and take a look around. Yeah, the economy’s doing great, for Huge corporations and the Richest assholes on the block. Personally, My healthcare is up about $100 a month, and that is squarely on the GOP’s watch.
    Vote Dem, and do yourself a favor.

  113. 113 tony marques

    clayton, I’m sure that you and the other voices in your head “are” confused.

    This site is a place where we used to come to hear Mike Stark’s calls to reichwing hate-radio hosts. Mike would manage to get on the air and expose the hate-hosts for the hypocrites they are.

    We come here because we enjoy listening to the radio hosts squirm. So, yes, this is a mutual admiration society. Feel free to stay, but dont expect to feel welcomed.

    thank me

  114. 114 Jeff

    Clayton,

    I hate to see you flaggilate yourself in front of all of us with the misguided belief that we are laughing WITH you, not AT you.

    The funny thing about hopeless paranoid delusionals like you is that you actually BELIEVE the lies you have been spoon-fed from Sean, Rush and O’Liely about progressive liberals.

    In your twisted mind, you really do actually have a mental picture of Liberals as a group of hippies who run a 24-hour abortion and needle exchange clinic that doubles by day as the Adam and Steve Wedding chapel and is funded by selling crack to minority welfare mothers and smuggling illegal immegrants in from Mexico.

    In your twisted psyche, you really do actually believe Liberals spend every waking moment mocking the troops, plotting to raise your taxes and take away your God-given right to keep and bear arms, all the while using a commie-red sharpie to “ex” the word GOD out on the back of dollar bills.

    In your pathetic little bubble of reality, Liberals hold wild sex orgies where we defile the corpse of Teri Scheivo and devour human embryos with Barbara Streisand, Ted Kennedy and Jane Fonda….did I mention that we keep our communes warm by torching a few bibles and American flags?

    You know what that picture of liberals has in common with Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny? NONE OF THEM EXIST, YOU IDIOT.

    You have been indoctrinated to fear a ghost…an abborition…a boogeyman. How sad for you and those like you.

    Buck up there, little cowboy….I don’t mean to leave you weeping in your desparation…..Come 3 this afternoon, why don’t you dry your tears and give Hannity a call. I’m sure that if you stroke Sean’s ego and kiss his ass like the rest of the callers, he will comfort you with a compulsory reach-around by reassuring you that, regardless of your misplaced hatred and maniacal xenophobia, you are still, somehow, a great American.

    Sean still loves you.

  115. 115 tony marques

    clayton,

    you have farm animals???? enough said.

  116. 116 Blue Patriot

    Shit.
    I just realized the Clayton is too stupid to even know he’s racist.
    That is some dumb ass southerner, right there.

    Christ, did you actually type that crack about burning blacks? Or do you have some horrible brain tumor or perhaps, you’re possessed by the ghost Jesse Helms? Good lord, man.

    You’re what the thinking world refers to as “the 19%” those Americans that are just too plain stupid to realize that they are living in evolution’s cul-de-sac.

    That’s a dead end, you ignorant dipshit.

    Vote Democratic!

  117. 117 Pauly

    Nice one Jeff. Excellent read. Are you really Bill Maher? If not you should send your 10.11 am comments to his show. Keep it coming.

    I’m trying to understand the logic of Mr. Bush going on the Fat bastard’s show. Who could he possibly be trying to convert??

  118. 118 darylj

    Sean still loves you.

    Ted Haggard still loves them too.

  119. 119 Passing Through

    It seems to me that what you went through is common practice with the Republican Party. I worked in DC with the media and have witnessed the actions of many congressman, senators and their entourages that would make what happened to you seem like a “pat on the butt”. Instead of being a part of the “people” they have become a piece of the machinery that claims to run this nation. As long as we vote these long standing, power hungry, do as they please pieces of machinery into our government (The Virginian way) we will continue to see how disgusting these individuals are and maybe then we can make a real change. Hopefully this Tuesday the wheel of common sense will start to turn. Congrats on the new job.

  120. 120 Clayton

    Would you buy a used car from Bush or Cheney?

    Certainly.

    Well, I’m not rich. But by all measures available, the economy is cooking right along. I know that class envy thing has you wishing that those evil rich folks should have to give you some free cash because, well, they’re evil. But, that ain’t the way it works. You really need to lose that envy thing, btw. Not a very appealing trait.

    And uh, if’n we get the universal healthcare that the Nancy Pelosis and the Charley Rangels out there would like to see, you can expect it to be higher, and the quality diminished.

    Vote Dem? Shirley you jest.

    I believe tony was next…

    As to exposing right wing talk show hosts as hypocrites - that’s rich. Perhaps you should spend more time listening, and less time running yer yap. Or, maybe even call in to challenge an assertion. There’s an idea. Most of ‘em will even get you in quick (as a liberal). Probably because so few liberal listeners have the nerve to be exposed as a moron by logic and reasoning.

    And then we hear from Jeff (who has a fixation with being thanked)…

    Please feel free to laugh at me. I’d expect nothing less.

    I’ve made up my mind about ‘progressive liberals’ from a number of sources. And as I said earlier - get your views on the world from Jon Stewart, do you? You may notice that that show is on Comedy Central. But, you do as you see fit, and do as you are capable.

    In my mind, you’re a group of people that don’t mind spending other folks’ money. Who think killing a baby hooman is no big deal. Who think worrying about the approval of world opinion is more important than worrying about a bunch of looney tunes that would like to see you and yours dead and gone because you’ve moved past the 7th century. See what that envy thing can do to folks?

    And your line - In your twisted psyche, you really do actually believe Liberals spend every waking moment mocking the troops, plotting to raise your taxes and take away your God-given right to keep and bear arms, all the while using a commie-red sharpie to “ex” the word GOD out on the back of dollar bills.

    Nope. None of the above. Except that it are liberals behind those things, generally. I figure you spend a lot of your time remembering back to your days of indoctrination, where you were told that Democrats were the nobel group that was for the little people, and Republicans just wanted to pullute the water and starve babies.

    No shit? Wild orgies? It never occured to me.

    I really would be encouraged to hear a liberal condemn Ted Kennedy (and even Jane Fonda). For the life of me, I can’t understand why he’s given a pass.

    And the picture I have of liberals is far more shocking than what you’re picking up listening to a little conservative talk radio and something on Fox.

    And fearing you folks? I wouldn’t call it fear. More a feeling of amazement. That one can justify killing their own children, that for some reason I shouldn’t be allowed to arm myself, that I should invite the government with their stellar track record to have anything to do with my health.

    As to calling Sean Hannity… Why would I need to talk with him? And why would I be weeping? From laughing? Not in the mood right now, but you have provided a few chuckles. And even addressed a few things I mentioned about an eighth of a mile upstream on this moron’s little web page. I’m sure you’re exhausted, and won’t clue me in on Ted Kennedy, but I take what I can get. Hic.

  121. 121 Passing Through

    You know were all phucked up in some way or another what is happening here is that we have high profile people who purposefully cover up their actions in order to gain the publics favor. Most republicans, by nature, have personalities that sway towards the need to be in a power position to serve themselves and those who need to bond with them. Democrats at least use this power to try an help those who can not help themselves, sometimes disregarding their own concerns. Its not the fantasy of the situation but the honest truth. God forbid that someone in any government have concerns for others, that they wish to use the money that it has to help those that have nothing, that they believe that to teach a child the ins and outs of sex is a viable alternative to abortion, That they consider the needs of all its citizens not just those that contribute and want to better the lives of a few.

  122. 122 tony marques

    clayton: “Not in the mood right now, but you have provided a few chuckles.”

    clayton, you have provided enough laughter to last me the day. Where can I catch your act? You’re good, you.

  123. 123 Clayton

    clayton,

    you have farm animals???? enough said.

    No, it’s a bit of sarcasm. Though I do live next to a few farms. And I lack the cultured environment where I can order a pizza to be delivered, and be envious of my neighbor’s new Jaguar and wonder why he should have one and I shouldn’t - after all, it just ain’t fair.

    116 Blue Patriot

    Shit.
    I just realized the Clayton is too stupid to even know he’s racist. That is some dumb ass southerner, right there.

    Uh, yeah. Too stoopid. And as I understand it, Virginia is considered part of the south. And… Weell, you didn’t really have a point. At least you didn’t refer to me as a Nazi. Thems were bad people. And far too many people throw that term around like spaghetti against the wall hoping it will stick.

    Burning blacks? Me? Why, whatever for? No, it was a variation on an old joke (the burning part). Similar to another variation, where you can give a man a car, and he’ll have a ride for the nite. But, teach a man to jack a car, and he’ll have a ride for life.

    Your reading comprehension isn’t exactly stellar.

    The thinking world? That what you loonies call yerselves? Ha ha ha. That’s a new one for me. Gonna write that one down, I are. Ha ha ha.

    Ignorant dipshit? Shirley you’re kidding. I may be on the opposite side of the fence, but only a weenie that’s run out of things to say would think that I’m ignorant. If you’d like to point out something I’m ignorant of, please do. But don’t bring up feminine hygiene products or populations of Iceland and Greenland or how to make a soufle.

    And no, I won’t be voting Democratic. Ever.

    117 Pauly

    I’m trying to understand the logic of Mr. Bush going on the Fat bastard’s show. Who could he possibly be trying to convert??

    Uh, Pauly? Did you listen to the exchange, or just heard about it through the likes of Bill Maher annd Jon Stewart? Just curious.

  124. 124 kat

    Clayton, I’m confused..who is this “Shirley” you keep talking about?

  125. 125 tony marques

    clayton: you are not in on the joke, are you? your responses to us appear to be as serious as a heart attack!!!!

    we are egging you on!! we’re laughing at you!!!!! You are too easy.

    what a maroon, what a nin-cow-poop!

  126. 126 Clayton

    I suppose you’ve never watched the move Airplane. Something of a classic.

    Shirley you can’t be serious - I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley.

  127. 127 Clayton

    Well, no. I’m not in on the joke. And as I see that there are more than a few folks that are likewise not in on the joke - perhaps you got your training in humor from John Kerry?

    Or is calling someone a racist or a Nazi or a whatever just another silly one-liner to you?

    I knew there was an explanation.

  128. 128 tony marques

    I feel like I’m rolling in the mud with a pig. I’m getting out.

  129. 129 Jeff

    Poor Clayton….He doesn’t even realize it, but metiphorically, he has officially reached the point in an episode of the 1960s “Superman” show where the bad guy has shot all his bullets, and in desparation, results to throwing his gun at the man of Steel. Pathetic.

    Clayton, Clayton, Clayton…when will you ever learn? Remember back to the painful days of elementary school when the cool kids beat you up every morning and how you cried like a nine-year-old girl when they took your milk money that Mom folded into a hankercheif and neatly pinned in the pocket of your Sears “Husky” courdoroys?

    Think back to those days, and take the advice of the crowd…Stop struggling to get back up….just stay down and the pain will soon go away.

    You all have to pity poor Clayton…the fourth grade was the toughest three years of his life.

  130. 130 Clayton

    Down? Hardly.

    And the tenth grade was the hardest three years of my life. You know, where your sense of humor peaked?

  131. 131 Passing Through

    This is clearly our nations conservative power seeking (attention needing) at its best. As I close I will take the attention away and “poof” it is gone. bye Clayton,Shirley whom ever you are. you are no more.

  132. 132 Pauly

    “Uh, Pauly? Did you listen to the exchange, or just heard about it through the likes of Bill Maher annd Jon Stewart? Just curious. ”

    I am unable to spend any of my life listening to Hannity, O’Reilly or Fat Bastard Rush, whom simply MUST be on the payroll. No, Clayton, when CNN, MSNBC et al in addition to many national newspapers were still talking up Limbo’s hipocracy regarding Michael Fox, many analysts mentioned the irony that a few days later Bush was on his Radio show. I’m simply suggesting that he’s wasting his time preaching to the choir.

    And Clayton, you need to understand something very fundamental, Non-Republicans don’t get their “news” from Maher or Stewart, for crying out loud they have very funny shows, it’s called entertainment, period. You know entertainment don’t you? Ask the Rev. Ted Haggard.

  133. 133 Rheinhard

    Pauly - you make a good observation, but I think you’ve elucidated some wingnut projection.

    Clayton et al. assume “us libs” get our news from John Stewart or Bill Maher, because they get theirs from Sean Hannity and RUsh LImbaugh. Obviously if one side gets its news from partisan entertainers pretending to be pundits, surely the other must as well, right?

  134. 134 Clayton

    Good bye (passing thru).

    Attention seeking? Needing? Me?

    Hey, I’m not the dude that bullyed his way into a gathering and then proceeded to become so obnoxious that he had to be physically removed.

    As to the entertainment value of the two comedy shows… Well, it’d be nice if’n the left (for the most part) saw them as such. But from listening (reading) to you clowns, I’d have to say that’s where you’re getting your news. Just an observation.

    And uh, for the record, I have no affiliation at all with Hubbard. Haven’t been to a church since about 1973. Didn’t know anything about him or the organization until I saw it in a vision whilst I was reading my Bible this morning.

    I know you’d like to paint me as some - well, nevermind. You’re just joking, right? I’m no maroon! Yoose assholes have been pulling my leg for two days now, and I’m all pissed and humiliated and will have to go tune into Rush just to know what my next thought should be!

    Drat! Beaten by a group of liberal weenies again! What I get for entering a gun fight armed with a tin foil hat and a squirt gun.

    And I can only be sorry that what you got out of the Fox story was that Rush wasn’t so PC as to accuse the dude of overplaying his illness. While there’s no doubt he did (dramatic effect, you know - all important when you’re going after people’s emotions), the real story is that federal funding of embryo stem cell research is what conservatives oppose. Which was not what what was conveyed by Fox at all. Oh, well. I can only work so hard at trying to clue you morons in.

    Hey, don’t look now, but I think Wheel of Fortune is about to come on. You wouldn’t want to miss your favorite entertainment show, now would you? Go get ‘em, Tiger!

  135. 135 Kyle

    POW/MIA Wrote
    Nov 2nd, 2006 at 11:14 pm

    “Kyle, you’re a fucking moron.

    I respect your RIGHT to have an opinion, but I’m not going to lie and say it has any basis in the realm of reality.

    Moron.”

    Would you care to actually explain why or are we supposed to just take your word for it? Simply stating I’m a moron with out any supportive text is silly. I would hope you have something constructive to add instead of calling people names. Do you actually want things in this country to get better or do you not like America? I say this because being emotional and using sarcasm does not lead to positive communication and problem solving.

    If you do not like what someone says (idea and opinions) then offer an alternative instead of name calling.

    Just an Idea.

    Thank you for reading

    Kyle.

  136. 136 Passing Through

    whew

  137. 137 Passing Through

    Name calling seems to be one of the many traits of our wonderful counterparts “fight back” initiative. You see if reason is used and they are forced to explain themselves then they might have to draw some conclusions about themselves that would call them out as the “fakers” that they are. Maybe it has something to do with their lack of memory of the lies they have told and the questionable acts they have performed.

  138. 138 Clayton

    Hello Passing Through…

    I’m not certain who you’re addressing. I know I’m guilty of inserting the ‘moron’ label now and then. I sometimes regret it, but as I don’t hand it out lightly… Well, I don’t often regret it.

    My all-time favorite, is Nazi. I know a little of Nazis, and these were bad people. How anyone can utter that term and then be expected to be taken seriously ever again is beyond me.

    Then again, these guys have all been conspirin’ to just bait me all along, and they’re just havin’ fun at my expense. Imagine how it’d be if’n they were serious!

    Egads, I’d be a homophobic Nazi as well as a gun-totin’ knuckle-dragging baby-starvin’ abortion-clinic bomber troll, afflicted with cancer. Sucks to be me, eh?

    I think I’ll do some passing through myself, and get back to my other computer. Silly me, I thought by having two machines in front of me I’d get twice as much done. I can see it now, though. This Mike dude will see the total number of posts to his meager story, and think he’s cooking with gas. It’ll probably land him another spot on Olberman’s show. Pity they won’t read the content and take it to heart.

  139. 139 Alex

    I wasn’t going to vote. But then you went and acted like a sissy and now I need to vote against you.

  140. 140 David Irving

    Mr. Stark,
    Thank you for being a true patriot. We here in Georgia support your actions.

    http://chinaeastwind.com/name-these-thugs/

  141. 141 Scribes Unlimited

    Mike,

    Are you aware of a recent article from the Wayne Madsen Report about Senator Allen’s possible gay affair with another staffer?

    “With less than a week before the election and amid Virginia Senator George Allen’s commitment to an amendment to the Virginia Bill of Rights banning state recognition of civil unions or domestic partnerships for hetero- and homosexual couples, comes additional chatter about the large number of open and closeted male homosexuals working in top positions in Allen’s Senate office. Allen is described by Capitol Hill insiders as having a relationship with one of his gay Senate staffers that is “closer” than his relationship with his wife Susan.

    Allen’s closeted homosexuality has long been the subject of interest ever since his time as Governor of Virginia. Allen, according to informed sources in Richmond, was a frequent visitor to private clubs in the state capital that catered to gay clients. The rumors about Allen dogged him from Richmond to Washington, especially after it became well known that Allen’s DC hiring practices favored young gay men. Allen was also one of three U.S. Senators who received contributions from Rep. Mark Foley, who resigned after soliciting sex from underage male pages. The other two are Rick Santorum and Jim Talent.

    The closeted homosexuality of Allen as an issue of hypocrisy of top GOP leaders is sure to affect turnout and support by Christian fundamentalists in downstate Virginia, thus boosting the chances of Democratic candidate Jim Webb. Similar allegations of hypocrisy also surround Florida gubernatorial candidate Charlie Crist, Pennsylvania Rep. Phil English, California Rep. David Dreier, North Carolina Rep. Patrick McHenry, Louisiana Rep. Jim McCrery, California Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, Idaho Senator Larry Craig, and Utah Senator Orrin Hatch.”
    ——————–

    I think you may want to continue digging into this. Let’s bury this racist gay piglet, and bring morals and values back to Virginia.

  142. 142 Blue Patriot

    “My all-time favorite, is Nazi. I know a little of Nazis, and these were bad people. How anyone can utter that term and then be expected to be taken seriously ever again is beyond me. “- Clayton, the fuckwit

    The internets don’t contain enough space for all teh shit that is beyond you, Clay.
    You should read a bit more about Nazis. Their use of wedge issues. Their use of government-sponsored and approving media outlets. Their use of racial boogeymen.
    Their wrapping themselves in the flag and carrying a cross while the step on the necks of society’s outlyers.
    Yeah, I think you know more about Nazis than you think, Hoss.

    Now, as far as my reading comprehension goes, I know that you took a rehashed coloquialism and turned it into a disgusting racist diatribe. And I know you’re an ignorant fuck that hasn’t got the foggiest notion why all these uppity “intalectules” are so nad at your chosen meat head. If you did, you’d probably have shut the fuck up by now.

    You’re pathetic. And your utter lack of knowledge over what a progressive thinks is what makes you a rightwing authoritarian. You don’t have the stones or the brains to be liberal.

  143. 143 ByeByeLiberals

    Explain this to me Libs - why is it OK to cause a public disturbance like this, and then brag about it afterwards? Allen is no saint for sure, but what gives you the right to invade his personal life in public like that? You weren’t trying to have a peaceful conversation, or engage in debate - you were mud slinging from up close. How does that make you a hero? I cringe that so many people are praising your actions here, but - go figure - its’ a bastian of liberal thought so why wouldn’t they. Those of us in the real world - the moderates like myself - laugh at you and your moronic actions here, while you think you’re doing something good. Keep doing things like this actually, so the rest of America can see what kooks you all are, and your lame arguments will stay in the gutter of America, where they should be.

  144. 144 ByeByeLiberals

    What’s even funnier about you libs is how much power you THINK you all have. Things in the media and the political climate couldn’t be better for you right now. I mean, how could things be any worse for Republicans at an election time than right now? And even in this climate, you still aren’t guaranteed of winning either the House or Senate, let alone both! Even at your strongest point, you might not do any better than having - perhaps - a one- or two-seat margin in the House.

    If your new progressive ideals are so much better than everyone else’s, shouldn’t you be headed to landslide victory next Tuesday? Shouldn’t you be making up 70 seats in the Senate, and 350 seats in the House if your ideas are so great??

    Put it this way, if you can’t win now, when will you ever win again? Keep bragging about little moments like Mike’s little tantrum in VA! If that’s the most you can brag about, the rest of us will be better off!

  145. 145 tony marques

    blue patriot; well said

    cletus,… err.. I mean, clayton, keep talking. You amuse us.

  146. 146 Jeff

    Blue Patriot…

    Here’s one for the old game of “Guess the Quote”, although I fear it will be a shade beyond Cletus’s level of “comprenshun”.

    Who said:

    “Of course the people do not want to go to war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along…Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and then denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and accuse them of exposing the country to a greater danger.”

    Give up?

    That statement comes from the transcripts of the Nuremburg Trials…
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    …by Hermann Goring.

  147. 147 ByeByeLiberals

    Jeff, last I checked, Polish citizens didn’t fly planes into the German equivelant of the Twin Towers in the 1930s, so your aguement holds only so much water. Let me ask you this - do you really think everythign the right is saying about how we’re in danger is false? Do you believe the exact opposite? Do you think everything is hunky dorey if we “just leave the terrorists alone”? Do you really think we’re totally safe and not at risk? Of course not - you’re fooling yourself if you say we are. The truth is, we are at risk, and I’m going to vote for the candidates that will best defend my nation, not to mention those who will lower my taxes, and not make me feel guilty for being a married, straight, white man. Ooooh … I must be evil if that’s the case. ooooh … evil white straight married man. Look out everyone …. Ahhhh!

  148. 148 tony marques

    Jeff,
    I am afraid that the quote you posted is too subtle for cletus.

    However, I dont doubt for one bit that this administration has read the nazis’ playbook and is following its instructions to the tee. And so far, with great success, I might add.

  149. 149 chickfu

    You know, someone above noted that Clayton missed his opportunity to call someone a fag. His subtle use of Shirley was just such.

    Although it is fun to poke this cornpone with pointy sticks, is he really worth the bandwidth? For me, after he said he unabashedly uses the n word, he was beyond hope. Note that he never had an original thought in all of his rambling discourse. Just talkin’ points.

  150. 150 UNLVlawchk79

    Okay, Anonymous. You need to go back and read your neo-con comrade, mike’s posts. His use of “monkey,” “black dogs,” and stereotyping another poster (with a black “sounding” name) WERE racist. Nobody called him a racist until he SAID racist things! That Mike guy and people like him were the reason I decided to abandon my home (Virginia). I was tired of the overt racism, and for the backhanded racist slights toward me and my husband (who is white). Although I know that I’m not safe from racism anywhere in this country, I just couldn’t take the hypocrisy of the so-called “New South.” Nothing’s changed, really. We just aren’t allowed to have separate drinking fountains now.

  151. 151 cathy

    interesting reading!! but who knows what the truth really is! has anybody really thought about that?

    sometimes i don’t think the so called leaders of this country are on the same page, but then we are ones who put them there, right? it seems to me that a simple answer to a question asked would suffice but i guess he has something to hide. how about your service record to your country, or your grades in college, do you think they will help you to do a better job as a representative of this state? put your money were your talents lay so that we can say we made the right choice!!

    if you can’t show that we have made the right choice then step aside and let the real talent come forth.

  152. 152 Jeff


    Bye Bye Liberals said: “Jeff, last I checked, Polish citizens didn’t fly planes into the German equivelant of the Twin Towers in the 1930s,”

    Gee, Last I checked, Neither did Iraqi citizens, you pinhead.

  153. 153 Jeff

    Bye Bye Liberals said: “And even in this climate, you still aren’t guaranteed of winning either the House or Senate, let alone both! Even at your strongest point, you might not do any better than having - perhaps - a one- or two-seat margin in the House.”

    Wow…BBL, do yuo even understand how looney-tunes crazy that statement was?…By CRAZY, I don’t mean NORMAL crazy..I mean certifiable-Katherine-Harris-Batshit-Crazy.

    BBL, Denial ain’t a river in Egypt, boy…Face it….As of today, every major non-partisan election tracking pollster in America is calling for Repuiblican losses of between 26 and 45 seats in the house, and a better than 50% chance of Democrats taking a 1-2 seat majority in the senate.

    I suggest you start taking action to come to grips with the dire consequences facing Republicans this election cycle, or someone as unstable as you may just wake up Wednesday morning with the uncontrollable urge to gnaw on the business end of your “NRA-Approved” home security device. Wouldn’t be nice to leave a mess like that all over Mom and Dad’s basement walls, if you catch my drift.

    No matter what form of self-denial psychotropics Sean, Rush-bo and FAUX Snooze are currently mixing into your koolaid, you need to understand the overwhelming reality that the Republicans are facing a bloodbath of biblical proportions Tuesday.

    Personally, I’ve bought a shitload of Pfeiser stock…I got a strong feeling there is going to be a honking run on prozac sales in the red states come the middle of November!

  154. 154 tony marques

    Jeff,
    Unfortunately, even though the democrats are winning every poll, I dont trust the republican voting machines one bit.

    If george shrub wants to stay in power, then I expect his operatives will make sure the machines say they won.

    Call me cynical, but I know how computers work. Its very easy to write a program that can alter the elections and then erase itself with no trace of wrong doing.

    Dont believe it? believe it.

  155. 155 Jeff

    Tony,

    Electronic voting election fraud, to remain undetectible, is statistically limited to less than a 2% variance between the margin on electronic voting versus absentee and “paper” ballots….too many of the races are beyond that margin. Fraud or not, Republicans WILL lose the house. Of the states in play for the senate, MD, PA, RI have Dem controlled election processes…that leaves VA and TN…too many eyes are on those races for a OH ‘04 to work on both. As I said, The House WILL flip, and better than even odds, Dems will control the Senate.

  156. 156 L3RN3D HAND

    For all the AttyAssClowns & 1L/2L/3LTools above (both pro & con-Stark):

    PLEASE SPARE ME (and the rest of the Internet) all of your legal memoranda and briefs–at least spare me your shit while posting in Mike Stark’s Blog’s Comments section. No one really wants to read paragraphs and paragraphs of your blatherskite. Save your blather for judges, law professors, or law examiners that will eventually have no choice but to read your shite. In the future, keep your Blog Comments short & they’ll have greater effect on the Blog Post’s overall conversation. A simple one-line insult or congratulatory epithet is more effective than 4 paragraphs of what many of you wrote. Stick to one or two sentences or a brief paragraph.

    Now don’t go replying to my comment. That’s just what I’d expect from an AttyAssClown or 1L-3LTool to do. Your pride hasn’t been insulted; my generic insults and suggestions weren’t directed at any of you specifically. And, yes, you’re right, I just wasted an equal amount of my own brainpower and time just like you guys did. Guess that makes me an AssClown too.

    Lastly, go and get your own blog then you all can release your inner Cardozo; hopefully by then you all will have absorbed Cardozo’s elegant but simple and precise legal writing style.

  157. 157 Clayton

    I’ve had a good time with you chumps over the past couple of days. I had some drive time, and some time listening to Boortz here this morning. No wonder you maggots hate hearing talk radio. Those guys are brutal to stoopid liberals - and are so polite in doing it. Some Rush, some Sean, some Jerry Doyle, and even those maggots up at WBZ in Boston. Ha ha ha. Clowns? If you’re on the receiving end of that stuff, you’re on the wrong end. Because they are as right as I am in pointing out the hypocrisy of the left. Must suck to be you - for being, well, stoopid. And then having someone shove it down your throat on a daily basis. Ever so politely, even. Ha ha ha.

    I’ll never understand it - yoose folks are probably as educated as I am, and yet you haven’t got a fucking clue. One of the mysteries of life, I guess.

    And to the lady that flinches when I use the ‘n’ word (nigger), and thinks I’m gay-bashing when I say Shirley you folks are the dimmest I’ve come across in awhile? It’s not a slur at all, stoopid. It’s from the movie Airplane. Which just came on. Roger. Huh?Clearance, Clarence. Roger, Over. Huh? What’s our vector, Victor. Roger. What?

    I’m serious, you bunch of maroons. You ought to leave politics to folks that know what’s going on. Clearly, the lefties here haven’t got a clue. Not one. Or they’re holding out.

    And the best part? They’ll actually sell Pfizer stock to a dickhead that can’t even spell it. Gawd, ya gotta love it!

    And how can a liberal gnaw on the end of his gun? They’re afraid of their own shadow, much less a big handgun. Gads. Liberals for gun control - there just couldn’t be a sillier argument. Liberals change their tune when they’ve been assaulted, btw. I’ve seen it happen twice.

    Oh, this just in - there’s a bloodbath coming Tuesday. No, that’s what happended in 94. If you assholes squeeze out a victory, it’ll be by the slimmest of margins. And I see you’ve already got the red flags raised about voting machines, so’s if you lose, it’ll be because the evil Republicans rigged it all. Smart dudes, you bunch of morons.

    Ha ha ha. And as I get ready to sign off and go back to Airplane, I see where some maggot is saying that Allen is a queer (means gay). Gads, go with it. Yoose guys are the best!

    Wait, no… The best is the first dude here that said I wore a klan hat and wished cancer on me. And then I got to thinking… Who is the only Klansman in the Senate? Robert Byrd, of neighboring West By God Virginia! An officer, even. And, a Democrat. Ha ha ha. Amazing what you assholes get away with. And to think that you can’t recognize bias.

    Oh, wait! You can! You recognize it with Rush, and Sean, and Boortz, and Fox… But you’re only able to see it one way. Man, there’s a reason we on the right despise you morons on the left. You’re morons.

    Hey, there’s good stuff coming up on the movie. Can’t be wasting my time with you dimwits. I hope either your basement floods, your power goes out for a few days, or you get hit by a bus.

    Bye bye.

    Do you like movies about gladiators? Ha ha ha.

  158. 158 Pinker

    Hi Mike, You asked for a ride to the police station and I should have taken you. I was responsible for getting the hundreds of shoes back to Richmond and get my first grader off the bus by 3:30. Am afraid of no habeus corpus and the latest, passed on the 17th, by pres-not that allows him to deploy all arms of our military on US soil for about any reason. This has not been allowed since the mid 1870’s. I was really spooked by a plain black motorcycle that was behind me for the 70 mile trip along I64. When I slowed down to 45 or so to lose him he went one car ahead or right to my side. I have read, extensively, about what rights have been taken from this country, and have little doubt I’m not on the radar. Sad thing is I’m on radar for protecting our country. Am not an enemy combatent and will continue to doing protests against this illegal, immoral war. I have a beautiful, smart six-year old that doesn’t need her Mom to go missing for screaming Impeach Bush at a rally, but am getting that nervous.
    On a hopeful note. Every police officer I’ve encountered over the last five years’ protests have been professional, in a good way, and when possible have given me a thumbs up, or a “can’t say this-but I’m glad you’re doing what you are doing.” Even had a very tall (scary to me) cop walk protestors across traffic when one of our kids had to use the bathroom, and pointing out where the best vantage point would be upon the attendees leaving. Wonder if Bush/Allen and many others in “their” situation, have even a doubt about the mind sets of the “peace”(that’s what my daughter and I call them) officers. I suspect their state of denial couldn’t conceive of the police of doing merely just they are paid to do. Their minds, I believe, belong to themselves. I applaud them.
    Back to you, Mike.
    Read you’ve been hired by Air America! Need a Richmond correspondent? We didn’t get in with our banner, but not
    for lack of trying to talk ourselves in. They closed the doors when they say us coming. Were asked repeatedly if the info given by Allen, Dole, and Omni that the event was public was false. No. But you can’t disturb this group. They paid for the room. Not planning to disturb room. Public event, free speech, back and forth. Many guys with speaker phones standing and looking nearby. I guess they chose not to listen to Allen’s same ole. So when you came out they were on the alert for something for sure.
    Glad you did it.
    Rain

  159. 159 Anne Waddell

    For those of you ready to pounce on Senator George Allen, you may want to read my statement which I have provided to the AP news. They have taken excerpts from it, but here is the complete statement:

    Allen’s First Wife Would Vote for…ALLEN!!!
    Filed under: Commentary, News, Virginia — Ward at 3:27 pm on Friday, November 3, 2006
    Does this sound like a woman that was abused?

    Statement of Anne Waddell

    ARLINGTON, VA – Anne Waddell, Senator George Allen’s ex-wife, released the following statement today:

    “I am thoroughly disgusted by the baseless allegations and insinuations that have obviously been orchestrated by George’s opponent for the Senate.

    “It is not a secret that George and I were once married and divorced over 22 years ago. Because a divorce is a very personal matter, we decided to keep the records sealed, and I believe and insist that this is proper.

    “However, George’s opponent is trying to make something more of this matter. And I will not stand for it. George was, and is, a wonderful person and to try to make him into something else is deceitful, wrong, and will surely backfire against Mr. Webb and his allies. These types of last minute, desperate attacks are why so many Americans are disgusted with politics. It is a baseless, cheap shot.

    “Let me make it perfectly clear. If I were still a resident of Virginia, I would proudly cast my vote for George Allen.

    “I admire him as a person and as a dedicated public servant. Unlike some others in Washington, he is a man of integrity and character who has always been a loyal friend and hard-working elected official.

    “I agree with George on so many issues and appreciate the humor and personal charisma with which he approaches adversity.

    “George Allen is an outstanding United States Senator. I am proud to call him my friend and I urge Virginians to return him to Washington where he can continue to work for them.”

  160. 160 Tucker Carlson's Dog

    Even the NeoCons are bailing on Bushco:
    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2006/12/neocons200612

    Maybe they read the ‘LIST’
    http://unrulymob.blogspot.com/2006/11/growing-gop-list-of-shame.html

    Hey Cletus…now I understand where you’re coming from:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cletus_Spuckler

  161. 161 Tucker Carlson's Dog
  162. 162 Rightarded Mike

    Mike (the rightarded first poster),

    Shove your head back up Dubyas ass.

    FOAD.

  163. 163 Jeff

    GEORGE ALLEN ON HOW TO TALK TO A WOMAN:

    QUESTION: What do you say to a woman with two black eyes?

    ANSWER: Obviously, nothing she ain’t heard twice already.

  164. 164 floyd

    Dang Mike this thread is tremendous, hell you even got some ‘no idea’ Republicans coming out on you, yep, I saw you on CNN and yep again he did have the confederate flag in his office. Seems like all the radical right can do anymore is attack people who have disability’s and people who ask them hard questions.
    One thing is for sure they don’t know how to fix Iraq, to quote a very good ad we got going out there,,,,It’s because of Iraq,,that is one of the best ad’s out there, I say the Dems would be smart to run a blitz campaign with that one.
    Thanks for asking the hard questions, from the polls I’ve seen Webb now has an edge over the bigot.

  165. 165 chickfu

    Tucker Carlson’s Dog

    Hey Cletus…now I understand where you’re coming from:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cletus_Spuckler

    Classic.

    Notice how he has yet to refute any of the charges of racism, missing chromosomes, lack of a functional frontal lobe, etc.

  166. 166 tony marques

    cletus wrote: “I’ll never understand it - yoose folks are probably as educated as I am, and yet you haven’t got a fucking clue. One of the mysteries of life, I guess.”

    Cletus…. graduating from high school is not really considered a great accomplishment these days. And I’ll bet that most writers on this thread have college degrees.

    Therefore, you are not in our league. Nice try though.

  167. 167 Clayton

    Like I said, tenth grade. Three times.

    So, as I said, at least as educated. And yet still no clues. Flummoxed, I am.

    As to not being in your league - no, I don’t bowl. I’ll just bet you have nice shirts, though.

  168. 168 Tucker Carlson's Dog
  169. 169 Steve

    Stark your an asshole!

  170. 170 Old Broad

    Wow, I am behind the times - such incoherent junk, such vile language and disrespect. I agree with Stark and think you handled your questioning in a civil and legal way. I cannot believe (yes, I know it is true) haw the wingnuts on both sides of this issue have spouted nonsense and filth in response. I read about half the responses, then gave up in disbelief. About 1% agreed in a logical and respectful way (did not name-call the opposition)and about 1% did the same in support of the opposition. The rest…the language was not only illogical and incoherent, proving the decline of the educational system in this country in the last 50 years (since I was in school; yes, I am old), but even a child in 5th grade would have found it meaningless as well as mean-spirited drivel back then.
    I understand where all the uninformed voters come from now. Best of luck in law school. I was 38 when I went to law school and had 2 school age children. It is not easy, but it does end and it is possible to have a practice without some of the stereotypical “lawyer joke” stuff. Have fun and make a difference. Our nation and our world need rational people, including lawyers.

  171. 171 flistr8

    Sir

    You wouldn’t happen to be related to General John Stark of New Hampshire would you? He’s the person attributed to the quote “Live Free or die: Death is not the worst of evils”.

    Thanks for your efforts in this struggle.

  172. 172 Jeff

    Clayton….the mistake you continue to repeat is your tortured belief that anyone here gives a flying F#@K about ANYTHING you have to say.

    Be gone, you biggotted loser.

  173. 173 Clayton

    Hey, this biggoted loser is back.

    And wondering if anyone in his right mind would leave the party of appeasement in charge of this young little nation of ours, when we’re up against a bunch of Islamic nuts that want to kill evey last one of us.

    I’d invite you to check out a documentary that’s showing on Fox called Obsession. It’s showing a couple of times tonite and Sunday, and might give a couple of you a clue.

    I thought there for awhile that you were just toying with me (someone even claimed as much), but we all know that’s not the case. So I thought I’d try and help you out, because I’m a nice guy and all. Yeah, yeah - I know. I’ve openly chuckled about yoose fellows getting your clock cleaned on a daily (hell, hourly) basis by the right-wing talk show hosts. But, I truly do want everyone to have a little bit of a clue as to what’s going on.

    So, have a look. And try to imagine a Nancy Pelosi dealing with this mess. Or an Al Sharpton or a Ted Kennedy (hic) or a John Kerry or a Cynthia McKinney or a Jimmy Carter dealing with this. We really shouldn’t put children in charge of trying to compromise with these folks.

    I’ll come back to be abusive to you dolts later, but my little guy has a really cool scooter thing we need to go play with out in the garage. Vrooom, vrooom!

  174. 174 Pauly

    I believe the words “documentary” and “Fox” don’t belong in the same sentence there, Clayton.

  175. 175 Tucker Carlson's Dog

    I stopped in at POX to watch that mockumentary, ‘Obsessed with Little Boys’ and they were running this GOP GOTV spot:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCn-QAw_nmU

  176. 176 Clayton

    Pauly
    Nov 4th, 2006 at 9:13 pm

    I believe the words “documentary” and “Fox” don’t belong in the same sentence there, Clayton.

    Well, you’d be wrong. It’s a collection of stuff shown on Arab TV. No, it’s not gonna be shown on the networks - they’re still not ready to accept that there’s a whole group of people (Islamics) that are bent on killing all Americans and all Jews. You’ll really enjoy the translation of the three year old little girl explaining why Jews need to be killed because they’re pigs. I’m around a lot of children (American) that usually talk about Nemo or Clifford the Big Red Dog or Curious George. But the Islamic people apparently don’t teach their children that sort of thing.

    Perhaps you could open up that pumpkin head of yours to have a look, and then decide if you’ll later want to send a letter to Fox thanking them for enlightening you.

    It wasn’t produced by Fox, btw.

    You guys really need to wise up about a few things. I’m glad you can see the bias in general with Fox, but still amazed you can’t recognize it with the networks, the NY Times, The Washinton Post, the LA Times, etc. But, that’s for another time. There won’t be any Sean Hannitys calling you dunderheads. It’s an independent documentary. That you’d refuse to watch it because you’ve personally had your clock cleaned by a regular Fox personality tells me you’re pretty shallow. I know I’ve been yanking chains around here on just that - the shallowness of the left. But, do yourself a favor, and watch it.

    And then look over at your own children if you have any, and ask yerself if you want a bunch of appeasers running America so’s these assholes can come over here and pull another stunt like that of 9/11. They can’t wait, I assure you.

    You have a nice evening.

  177. 177 Tucker Carlson's Dog

    I just watched a great documentary about the Middle East. Very informative:

    Peace, Propaganda & The Promised Land
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=undefined

  178. 178 Clayton

    Cool. I’ll have to see how that one compares to the one I’m going to watch on Fox at 1:00 am. Perhaps you’ve heard of it. Called Obsession? It’s the one that lets us all know that there are folks out there teaching their kids that we should all die and that they should in fact be killing us. Man, that some upbeat stuff, eh? And here I was, listening to these Nancy Pelosi types and these Maddy Albright types telling me that we should be appeasing them, lest they get more pissed at us and blow us up or something. I was thinking that maybe we should make nice with them, and do something really really nice for them. Like, offer to wash their towel, or something. And then I remembered - they want to kill me. Ya coulda heard a pin drop, I tell ya. Now, I was axing myself - do I want to have a bimbette in charge of the House that doesn’t really understand that these sub-humans want to kill us Americans simply because we’re not fellow Allah worshippers? Alas, I didn’t answer myself. I didn’t want the guy in the next lane to look over and see me talking to myself. Then again, he was a dude with a Kerry sticker on his car. And he had his middle finger buried two knuckles deep in his nose.

    http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/

  179. 179 Tucker Carlson's Dog

    This will help you understand the Faux OBSESSION:

    OUTFOXED

  180. 180 Jeff

    Cletus….calm yourself down. It will all be over but the crying soon, and I hope you come back in here to be comforted Wednesday morning. We are compassionate liberals….we will be here to give you a shoulder to cry on when your world comes crashing down on you. See you at the polls, Cletus.

  181. 181 Clayton

    Hmmm. Cletus. A slur. I remember those. 8th grade… 8th grade humor. All coming back to me now. Jeff, the short kid that played trombone. We called him Jeffro. We were, afterall, in the 8th grade. But, we all understood each other.

    Okay, now that I’m back to your level…

    Uh, Jeffro. Ya like that? Jeffro. Hey, if it works for you, I’ll go with it. Jeffro.

    Man, the things I have to do to be able to deal with these liberal maroons. Wouldn’t it all just be so much simpler I we could just shoot ‘em.

    Now then, Jeffro - you were saying? Nothing, come to think of it. Why I thought to expect more is beyond me. There’s a reason that folks like Rush and Sean and the like have such an easy time poking fun at your lack of intellect. You couldn’t think (much less argue) your way out of a wet paper bag. Know what I mean there Jeffro my boy? You’re prepared to saddle us with a Congress that will be nothing more than a thorn in our side for two years. And for what? Because you’re still counting votes in Florida? Still can’t get over that one, can you? And for that, you’re willing to bring in the maroons.

    Well, Jeffro - you’ve at least shown me the light. There truly isn’t an ounce of intellectual honesty in anyone on your side. You can’t address a single thing slung your way, and instead have chosen the high road and poked fun at my name. The pinnacle of your efforts. And the funny thing is, you’re more than satisfied with it. Right, Jeffro? Of couurse.

    But hey, thanks for taking me back to the simpler days of 8th grade. It was like a short vacation. Almost makes me wonder if the gov’t may actually have their shit together on at least one front - they don’t let eighth graders vote! They are, afterall - eighth graders.

  182. 182 tony marques

    Jeff,
    I’m on your side, but stop measuring the drapes. Go out and vote. If we win, we have until January to order new drapes.

    Cletus,
    I agree that most of the world wants all Americans dead. What you fail to realize is that until bush came along, it was pretty much just the middle east. Now it’s pretty much everybody.

    Thank bush for that.

    Believe it or not, I travel to Europe a lot. I am consistently told by Europeans that they loved Clinton, but the HATE bush. I wonder why.

  183. 183 celticman

    What a loser, freakin attention whoring libbie asshole!!!

  184. 184 Jeff

    SOME IDIOT SAID; “Now then, Jeffro - you were saying? Nothing.”

    Wanna know why?

    Because there is nothing that ANYONE can say that will ever succed in changing a closed mind. Debating with a closed-minded idiot like you is like trying to teach a pig to sing….it’s a waste of my time, and only annoys the pig.

    I don’t need to change your opinions, cletus, All I need to succeed at is working to change the leadership….that work comes to fruition this Tuesday. It matters not how you like or dislike the result, poor boy. The ship will sail with or without people like you abord.

    All that is left to see is if you have the courage to show your face here Wednesday after it all is over.

  185. 185 Clayton

    I don’t go to Europe anymore like I used to. And I’ll agree, they didn’t understand why we (some of us) didn’t care much for the adolescent in chief. The folks in Paris, anyway. Just getting a little on the side. No big deal.

    Dunno how they feel about Bush.

    But I do recall how the English felt about Reagan. They felt that here was a politician that meant what he said. Finally. And how the heck could we ever get anywhere driving 55 MPH?

    I’ll suggest that much of the new hate has something to do with the touted oil for food program. The biggest scandal in world history. Hard to enforce them UN resolutions when you’ve got your hand in the cookie jar, eh? But you know, I just can’t lose a lot of sleep over the Germans and the French and the Limeys being clueless. The French are going to find out what a mistake it was to import cheap labor and expect them to always be content to being the cheap labor. They’ve already had a taste of it with the riots. The English (who haven’t mastered the toothbrush) will one day figure out that there’s not a social program to fix every one of their personal ills - it musn’t be any fun to have English born Islamics blowing up their very own little tube system… It must be America’s fault. Uh, huh.

    Well, just because everyone else is jumping off the bridge and aiming for the paradise of socialism, I’m not ready to get stoopid with them.

    Bush is obviously not the sort that Islamic nutcases are wanting to adopt, but he wasn’t the stimulus that brought on 9/11. Or the first trade center bombing in 93. Or the numerous other attacks in recent years.

    I’ll suggest that it are the two cars in your garage, the ffreedom to go flying and take your kid out for a ride on his new scooter or that big screen TV or the landing on the moon or the fact that English (ours, not the Qheen’s) is the reason. Envy. We can feed ourselves (and much of the world), and can actually do something productive with the oil that is located under the feet of people that would be more than happy to remain in the 7th century. Envy. From people who are willing to die just to scratch our armor.

    Sending a bunch of appeasers out to deal with it is going to get us all killed.

    And yes - Jeffro ought not be measuring drapes. He ought to be doing a little reading, but I expect he’s doing bong hits.

  186. 186 Clayton

    So, Jeffro (I like that more and more, actually), if’n you think my mind can’t be changed because it’s closed - can that be said about you as well? Of course it can.

    Then again, an open mind is probably cool. Except that yours appears to have been open to the point that your fucking brains fell out. You just don’t seem very bright.

    I’ll see you here Wednesday. Like, what are you going to do then? Come up with a really really mean name for me? You’ve not yet brought anything to the table besides high school insults, and I shan’t expect anything more - with or without a new Congressional makeup.

    Yer just not very stimulating, Jeffro. Ever heard that before? I’ll just bet you have.

  187. 187 tony marques

    Cletus,
    How would you feel if an Arab found oil in your backyard, and told you he was going to take your oil and his is going to pay you 10 dollars per barrel.

    Then, every couple of months, he drives up to your house in his Bentley and gives you your share (which you use to buy food for your family).

    Right or wrong, I believe that that is the way the middle east people us.

    Until we lose all of our dependency on THEIR oil, we will not have peace.

    By the way, the auto industry is in cahoots with the oil industry.

  188. 188 Jeff

    Cletus has given us a little peek into his psyche.

    He actually thinks that Reagan ended the cold war. That is the best indicater of a three-hour-a-day hannity listener that there is.

    Sean still loves you, cletus…he loves you because you are either too ignorant or too lazy to do your own research. He loves you because you lap up his pablum just like a baby bird on a worm regurgitated by it’s mother.

    Thanks for the clarification…and I’d bet a paycheck that, as a dyed-in-the-wool neo-conservitive troll, your sorry ass will not even be able to muster the courage to actually show up and take the lumps you have coming on Wednesday.

    That’s just the type of coward you and those like you really are.

  189. 189 Jeff

    By the way, cletus…let me give you a little help. “Jeffro” makes absolutely no sense.

    My guess is that you intended to make a reference to the 1960s Situation Comedy “The Beverly Hillbillies.

    That character name was “JETHRO”, you boob.

    Dern Idgit can’t even get hiz INSULTS right.

    I would prefer that if you intend to try insult me, you at least make an effort to do THAT correctly.

    Sad thing for you is that, now, either way you decide to type it in the future, you will still look like a fool doing it.

  190. 190 Clayton

    Hey, rich stuff. Gotta love the brain dead. Can’t one of you clowns just tell me the virtues of raising the minimum wage, or creating universal health care, or some other reason to vote Democrat? Oh. There are none. Hey, the Republicans deserve to lose, don’t get me wrong. It’s just that the Democrats don’t deserve to win.

    now ten…

    Cletus,
    How would you feel if an Arab found oil in your backyard, and told you he was going to take your oil and his is going to pay you 10 dollars per barrel. Then, every couple of months, he drives up to your house in his Bentley and gives you your share (which you use to buy food for your family). Right or wrong, I believe that that is the way the middle east people us. Until we lose all of our dependency on THEIR oil, we will not have peace.

    You meant to say, that that is how they ‘view’ us? An assumption, but I’ll go with it.

    The average middle easterner probably hasn’t got a clue as to how nice you and I have it, save for them Bentlys driving up. But, he is told, that all of his problems stem from you and I. They’re kept in the dark. A free Iraq would make that even more difficult, btw. Another time. So, you have a handful that live large, by oppressing their ‘citizens’. And were it not for our petro dollars, tthey couldn’t even feed themselves. Your point?

    By the way, the auto industry is in cahoots with the oil industry.

    Sure they are. That 300 MPG carb is ready for production. Just as soon as we all assume the stature of a Barbie doll - to go along with the brain power of folks that believe that crap. As in, none.

    And now a word from Jeffro.
    Cletus has given us a little peek into his psyche.

    He actually thinks that Reagan ended the cold war. That is the best indicater of a three-hour-a-day hannity listener that there is.

    Well, yes. We out-spent ‘em, and their people couldn’t eat with them trying to keep up. It collapsed, as you would expect it too. Why that is so hard to understand is beyond me. Then again, Jeffro, you don’t seem very bright. Easily offended, but not real sharp.

    I’ll suppose you thought it was all that nice talk from Jimmy Carter (and his dim bulb Billie) that finally showed them the light. But of course, you’d be wronger than a Bill Clinton and Maddy Albbright thinking that Korea was gonna stop trying to build nuclear bombs.

    Sean still loves you, cletus…he loves you because you are either too ignorant or too lazy to do your own research. He loves you because you lap up his pablum just like a baby bird on a worm regurgitated by it’s mother.

    I thought by now that you’d have figured out that I’m not a Hannity fan (not that there’s anything wrong with that). I can see he pisses you off, though. And I can understand why. He makes you and your ilk look incredibly stoopid, and is even a nice guy in doing it. I know I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of it - but then, I’m not stoopid and therefore wouldn’t be. Your bidness.

    Thanks for the clarification…and I’d bet a paycheck that, as a dyed-in-the-wool neo-conservitive troll, your sorry ass will not even be able to muster the courage to actually show up and take the lumps you have coming on Wednesday.

    Well, I’ll be here. Regardless of the outcome.
    For just because the really stoopid amongst us are able to be swayed by a very powerful lamestream media, I shall not ever become stoopid enough to think that my ’side’ is wrong. The facts do not lay that way.

    That’s just the type of coward you and those like you really are.

    Sheesh, spare me. You’ve not come up with a reason or a reasonable argument to support the baby killer party yet, other than it isn’t the party of George Bush. Which may be enough in your circle of friends. Which is probably the key word, here. Sitting around watching Friends, drinking light beer from Miller. A genuine step up intellectually from watching Wheel of Fortune, but not a giant leap. You’re a moron, Jeffro.

    And then, more words from Jeffro…
    By the way, cletus…let me give you a little help. “Jeffro” makes absolutely no sense.
    My guess is that you intended to make a reference to the 1960s Situation Comedy “The Beverly Hillbillies. That character name was “JETHRO”, you boob. Dern Idgit can’t even get hiz INSULTS right. I would prefer that if you intend to try insult me, you at least make an effort to do THAT correctly.

    Well, yes. It probably was derived from the Beverly Hillbillies. I just recall a short trombone player that hated being called that. In the eighth grade. By other eighth graders. Hey, it was you that started the insult game with the names. I tried to play your game, and revert to a simpler time where such things were important to me. And landed in the eighth grade. What do you want from me in trying to get to your level of intellect? Fourth grade, where we were worried about getting cooties from girls? There really is a limit to how far I’ll go for you, Jeffro.

    Sad thing for you is that, now, either way you decide to type it in the future, you will still look like a fool doing it.

    Oh, I look like a fool, do I? I’ve beaten you up like a rented mule, and you don’t even realize it. Where is all of your gang to help you out in your little game of trying to toy with me? The abandon you for a ball game or two or three? I mean, you weren’t just blowing smoke, were you?

    Lemme guess - that’s exactly what you were doing. Smoking. Which may explain why you sound like a babbling idiot.

    See ya later, Jeffro. Ha ha ha. I like it more and more. I can still see that short little dude with that huge fucking horn squirming every time we walked in on him. Gads, eighth grade was fun for me. And I can see you’re still enjoying it.

    Gotta go finish making dinner. No time for dolts like you to interfere with dead flesh. Yum, yum. Coward indeed. Ha ha ha. Like a rented mule, Jeffro. A rented mule.

  191. 191 ByeByeLiberals

    Jeff said: “Gee, Last I checked, Neither did Iraqi citizens, you pinhead.”

    Umm, not arguing about Iraq as the jury is still out there. But you are trying to equate Nazi tactics to those used by the Bush administration. You’ve got to be kidding right?

    Hitler used fear for his own party’s personal gain. There was nothing to fear, but he made up the fear so people would follow him and his sick cause.

    Call me an alarmist, but I’m guessing that 19 wackos flying commercial airplanes into the WTC would could be considered someting to truly fear! Yes, true, genuine fear! So the Bush administration is using genuine fear here, not something manufactured such as the Nazi’s use. And this justifies MANY of our anti-terrorist actions around the world, even if Iraq ultimately turns out to be a blunder. So comparing Bush’s actions to Nazi actions just doesn’t make sense. It appears YOU are the “pinhead.” Who uses “pinhead” anymore, I mean really. What, are you like 103 years old?

    Anyways, I also don’t believe the Bush administration, or Senators like Allen are locking up six million of it’s domestic enemies to gas them to death. Last time I checked, that wasn’t happening!

    That’s the problem w/ you liberals. Even when you have a legit argument, you can’t stand the temptation to go overboard and compare people to the worst thing you can think of at the time (i.e. Nazis). When you do that, you lose all credibility. Back off a bit and use realistic examples and mainstream people might actually pay attention to what you have to say.

  192. 192 tony marques

    Who uses “pinhead” anymore?

    Your idol, bill oleilly, uses that term all the time, pinhead!

  193. 193 Tucker Carlson's Dog

    It all in what you believe:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-7Q3AGCUJc&mode=related&search=

    Neo-Conservo-Fascist = Nazi

  194. 194 Clayton

    Call me cynical, but I might have a problem having a serious conversation with someone that hangs out at YouTube, and thinks that the events of 9/11 were carried out by someone within our own federal government.

    As in, are you a complete moron, or just when you sit down to your computer?

    Perhaps you should expand on just what it is you believe, so’s we don’t waste too much time with you. So far, you’re just not real impressive.

  195. 195 Jason

    Ahhhhh………………….

    Sweet Victory for Jim Webb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  196. 196 Yakki

    mike
    Nov 2nd, 2006 at 11:36 am

    Yes Tony, it has been a while since your sister came over.

    That’s not what your sister said last night!

    She said Tony’s sister came over and you couldn’t get it up so she went home dissappointed. Something about ’small-dicked neocons’ and their hairless scrotums.

    Your sister had a real good time though. You should have heard her moan when she got that ‘liberal injection’.

  197. 197 Yakki

    ByeByeLiberals
    It appears YOU are the “pinhead.” Who uses “pinhead” anymore, I mean really.

    Actually,Bill O’liarly uses it. On television.

    Your moniker is wrong though. It should be:

    “HELLO LIBERALS! AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!”

  198. 198 allenneedsanewjob

    Yes VA, the air is much cleaner now that the GOP have packed up and started to leave VA. I thought I noticed Allen at the local McDonald’s today in Richmond, they always need the type of person as Allen as a fry cook. HAVE A NICE DAY GOP AND KISS MY ASS!!!

  199. 199 Yakki

    allenneedsanewjob
    Nov 9th, 2006 at 2:40 pm

    Yes VA, the air is much cleaner now that the GOP have packed up and started to leave VA. I thought I noticed Allen at the local McDonald’s today in Richmond, they always need the type of person as Allen as a fry cook. HAVE A NICE DAY GOP AND KISS MY ASS!!!

    Allen as a fry cook?

    Well,that makes sense. He does have all that experience with fire.

    Burning crosses in black people’s yards.

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