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1. 1 bacci40 Jan 22nd, 2007 at 9:24 pm

   again mike, it wasnt that riehl beat you down, or that he came close to winning the overall debate, it is that you allowed yourself to be taken off topic

   totally different then when you went on ksfo and made them all nuts because you refused to go off topic

   now i know that sitting in a studio with the lights and knowledge that millions might be watching can be a bit disconcerting….but you have to remember the bullet points on this specific issue

   it is not that snuff radio is inherintley dangerous, its that a citizen’s rights were abridged through the misuse of the law.

   it is not about free speech….it is about whether the first amendment guarantees the right of anyone to hold down a radio gig

   it is not about ksfo, its about the old media trying to stifle the new media

   its not about just being controversial….its about whether a mic protects someone who blatantly lies

   the reason riehl could really do nothing but attack you personally for something that was hilarious guerilla protest, was that he to knows that spocko was attacked unfairly, and were disney/abc within its rights, his and other right wing blogs could also be summarily shut down

   i really thought kurtz was a media critic, but he continues to prove to be a lapdog for his masters

2. 2 Mike Stark Jan 22nd, 2007 at 9:32 pm

   well, bacci, I appreciate your thoughts, but I had a different motivation that superceded the debate about KSFO/1st Amendment, but was related to it.

   The thing is that Reliable Sources is a show that focuses on the political press. As such, I really wanted to drive home the idea that the right wing gets upset and calls for the death of journalists. we on the left want them to do their jobs, and we’ll be loud-and-foul-mouthed about our perceived slights, but the right wants them dead when they disagree with them or think they report something they shouldn’t.

   that’s why I wanted so badly to bring up stories that had real-world consequences. I hoped to engage the Spocko narrative as well, but I felt that our purpose might be better served the audience of Howie’s show had the dots connected for them in a way they might not be used to…

   in the end though, you are probably right. As a guest, I strayed into unexpected territory and it might harm my chances for being invited back. I might have tried to chew off more than I could swallow…

   I guess time will tell.

3. 3 Bill Adkins Jan 22nd, 2007 at 9:58 pm

   Check out Reihl tonight - he’s on the run and has no response. Seems he stepped in it deep awhile back and he’s yet to come up for air.

4. 4 Tony Solorzano Jan 22nd, 2007 at 10:12 pm

   Mike,

   I watched the segment through “Crooks and Liars” (thanks guys) and I have to agree that Howie “The Duck” did catch you off-guard and I can’t say that this one was a grand slam effort, but it was a fairly decent little blooper to left-center.

   I can overlook your inability to make the connection between the use of the clips and pointing out that Howie was doing the same, especially when you smacked “Duckie” down by pointing out you were in a public place when you busted out the “HSA” on Colmes’ appearance.

   All I can say is that if it was me, I would have probably been a little intimidated by all the lights and the makeup they’d have to put on me. But overall, it was a good segment, not up there with some of Cliff Schecter’s legendary smackdowns, but you’ll get there after a few more appearances.

   Good job overall, but next time, make sure to remind Howie that the first Amendment wirks both ways. Yes, the “snuff-talkers” have the right to say what they do, but we also have the right to speak out about it. Like you said, the way to combat that type of speech is to make it even more open so that EVERYONE hears it. Nothing like the light of truth fix what’s wrong these days.

5. 5 bacci40 Jan 22nd, 2007 at 10:20 pm

   mike,

   i understand what you wanted to do, but you were given little time to do it, and were well aware of the time constraints before getting on the show.

   so because you allowed kurtz to frame the debate and mistate facts (spocko had his website taken down even after he removed the clips, spocko never called for a boycott, the blog swarm occured not as a result of the clips being removed, but of disney/abc getting the entire blog pulled down), this allowed the show to become a straight pissing match between you and riehl.

   this is what surprised me.

   on your radio appearances, you stay on topic, but it seemed here that you wanted to get in so much, in such a small amount of time, the appearance itself was wasted.

   so riehl basically has to say nothing, can bring up a non sequitor of some radio stunt gone awry, can agree with you on fair use, and can miscaracterze your visual joke on hannity, and appear to some to come out on top.

   I know you wanted to connect the dots, but in doing so, sometimes we can sound like 9/11 conspiracy theorists or those who tried to connect kids suicides to rock music.

   and as i put in another post….next time kurtz or any of these talking heads hand out the line about just changing the channel, or turning it off….remind them what happened to the people of Rwanda who did the same thing. that is the most succinct and cutting way to connect the dots. the government using hate/snuff radio to energize a populace into genocide. let them laugh off that “absurdity”

   as for them asking you back…..well, youtube has already gotten 5k hits to the vid posted, the appearance has caused buzz over the blogosphere, and you continue to garner name recognition….im sure you will be back on.

   and eff the right wing critics…..

   oh, and good luck this semester

6. 6 Oreally Jan 23rd, 2007 at 12:44 am

   Under the circumstances, i.e. Howie Kurtz’s interview style, and Dan Riehl nearly non-sequitor replies, you did allright.

   Mike, how much professional media experience do you have? Are you a pundit or an activist. Me, I think you’re an activist and anyone who derails a particular show’s segment entitled; “Now, the talk gets pretty hot on KSFO, conservative San Francisco radio station. And one blogger found some of the hosts’ language offensive.” is doing so on purpose. If you were a pundit you would have prepared forr a myriad of different subjects. The thing is you were on that show because of this specific topic that you, rightfully, assumed would be the focus of the segment.

   Then cue the easily distracted Howie Kurtz and Dan Riehl the subject derailer. ah, watch ya goin’ to do? I give you (arbitrary but none the less exciting) points for putting your neck out and doing public appearances. (Your head’s still attached)

7. 7 Blogicalthought Jan 23rd, 2007 at 1:10 am

   Mike,

   What can one say about someone from Virginia, who holds up a sign containing profane and offensive matter, at a Democrat Elections Night Party in Connecticut, within the intent the profanity and offensive matter will be seen on public television, especially in light of the fact he is complaining about subject matter on Conservative radio and trying to organize individuals against corporate issues.

   My question is, you stated on your DailyKos diary on January 10, 2007, that you were engaged in a conference call with Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy on January 9, 2007 and would transcribe the call for all to read. you also stated, the following day you were in the Capitol Building in Washington, DC and fantasized about all the questions you would ask Senator Lott, though didn’t when you saw him.

   Considering the only movement you are currently engaged within is an attack on Disney and a Conservative Talk Show Radio Station in San Francisco, where Nancy Pelosi’s home and constituency is from, there are appearances that you are representing her political interests as well as those of Senator Kennedy.

   Clearly, despite the assaultive and violent actions that appear on photographs and video against Republicans and a woman journalist that you conducted during the 2006 campaign, they have chosen to have a relationship with you.

   Can you advise what role are they playing in all of this as it appears to be a movement by the Democrat Party and why you haven’t transcribed the conference call? Did they condone these guerilla tactics which included a woman being pushed by you so you could try to humiliate the Republican Senator?

   Thank you.

8. 8 Robert W. Anderson Jan 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 am

   Mike:

   I didn’t see the segment, but read the transcript you posted.

   Something we all need to keep in mind is that the proper remedy to obnoxious speech is even more speech. And, we need to remind everyone, a boycott–which Spocko was not engaging in, by the way–is an exercise in free speech. We, the people, have as much a right under the First Amendment to tell a company or corporation that a) we will not buy their products and, more importantly, b) why we will not buy their products.

   It’s important to remind these corporate media figures that the First Amendment only grants people the freedom from government persecution for what they write or say. It does not grant people the right to be heard. It does not grant people the right to speak without criticism. It does not grant people the right to a microphone or advertising dollars. All the First Amendment does is grant you the liberty to speak your mind uninhibited by the government; anything beyond that, and you’re on your own.

   It should come as no surprise that any member of the corporate, profit-driven media would find this notion inimical and threatening. Honestly, this topic would probably do better on the non-profit, non-corporate media, such as National Public Radio, PBS, or Pacifica Radio, and you’d be enlightening an audience who’d be receptive (though probably relatively ignorant of what’s going on on the other side of the dial) rather than combative and hostile.

9. 9 TheSpartan Jan 23rd, 2007 at 6:45 am

   Wow. illblogical, do you believe your own bullshit? Go back under your bridge troll.

10. 10 Jeff Jan 23rd, 2007 at 7:30 am

    Yeah, Right, blogical….you were offended because a sign lettered with “Hannity Sucks Ass” appeared in the background of a shot after 10:00 p.m. during election coverage hosted on “Hannity and (liberal to be names later)”. After all…..we all know that Hannity and Colmes has SUCH a LARGE audience of children. They love watching Hannity because that giant, bobbing air-filled cranium of his reminds them of watching the Macy’s thanksgiving day parade.

    Here’s the FACTS, PINHEAD.
    1) Hannity DOES suck ass.
    2) It was INCREDIBLY funny.
    3) People like you and Riehl are attempting to make hay from horseshit on a non-issue. At any moment they chose, Faux could have cut from the shot, or cut Mike out of frame.
    and, finally:
    4) I find it hillarious that you are so easily offended by the word ASS, (which appears a multitude of times in the bible) but don’t seem at all offended that FauxSports showed a CLEAR and LONG shot of a woman sporting a “FUCK ‘DA EAGLES” t-shirt shirt during their coverage of a playoff game.

    Until you can profess your false indignation universally, Blidiot, why don’t you just shove your silly little opinions up your own ass and rotate….we can smell hypocracy and false-indignation a mile away around here.

11. 11 SouthernSon Jan 23rd, 2007 at 8:50 am

    Hey Mike,

    Good job standing up to the blinking phonies–Kurtz too. You did fine, and whatever bumps in the road will get smoothed out by experience.

    I think you should have taken this to DKos and got more exposure, but I do understand if you feel you could have done better and wanted to digest it. But you’ve done another good service in showing how utterly without principle the rightwing truly is: they care nothing for truth or justice, but only how to attack some more. This time, it was because leftwing blogosphere didn’t spend enough time talking about the segment. Sheesh.

    One thing that is true, though, is that many many on the left do not understand how important rightwing propaganda on talk radio is to the conservative movement. I have gotten into heated discussions with people who insist that if THEY change the channel then what other people hear isn’t important (?). In general the left doesn’t attach to this issue as much importance as it should.

    You’re on the side of angels, my friend. Keep kickin’ it.

12. 12 blogicalthought Jan 23rd, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    Mike,

    I am still waiting for a response regarding Nancy Pelosi’s and Ted Kennedy’s role in this debacle, especially since there is an appearance of trying to squelch free speech on public airwaves in the District of her Constituency. This is especially since the issue you claim to be attached to is within her district and would benefit her to “squelch the conservative voice” on public airwaves.

    The sequence of events, as revealed online, is as follows and is quite interesting for a “first year law student” who is living off financial aid and his wife’s income from work:

    1. For over a year, a lone poster, who was previously involved in the John Kerry Campaign doing public relations for him, began a campaign against a conservative radio station, claiming he was only advising advertisors of the content of the productions.

    2. Despite the above claims, he continued the process and encouraged others to do it as well, thus not really “advising advertisors” but trying to pressure them to stop advertising on Conservative Radio.

    3. You travel to Iowa for the Iowa primaries, campaigning for the Democrat party.

    4. You meet with Duncan Black during the summer primary in Connecticut, where you are campaigning for Ted Lamont who is running against Joe Lieberman, though you are not a resident of CT. and are not a Constituent.

    5. You actively campaign against Senator Allen for the Democrat party in Virginia, go to several campaign functions and disrupt them with acts of violence, pushing people, holding them up against doorways, using force and pushing a female reporter out of the way. You do so, claiming you are a reporter for Air America.

    6. Cenk Ugyar of The Young Turks, Air America Radio Show issues a press release stating you have been hired by Air America, AFTER you advised others you were disrupting the Republican rallies on their behalf (allegedly trying to get an interview.)

    5. Just weeks before the Media Reform Conference in Nashville, Tennessee, you begin to organize liberal bloggers, mainly “Eschatonians” or rather known as “Atriots” who blog for Duncan Black and David Brock of Media Matters, financed by George Soros, to “blogswarm” the issue.

    6. During the height of this “blogswarm” you post an article on Huffington Post, claiming to be a “Marine” the week of the Conference.

    7. During this same week, Media Matters does a series of articles regarding the radio station.

    8. On January 10th, you announce you were involved within a Conference Call with Representative Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy on January 9th and announce you went to DC to the Capitol Building on the 10th. You state you would post a transcript of the conference call, yet never did it.

    9. On January 10th, the San Francisco Chronicle writes an article about the “lone blogger” (who appears to have ties with the San Francisco Chronicle.” A board member of Media Matters is a “journalist” with the San Francisco Chronicle and writes with the journalist who wrote the article.

    10. On January l0th, the radio station announced on January 12th, the radio station would open the air waves for all to call, with their concerns about content matter of their shows for a three hour period of time.

    11. On January llth, you wrote you spoke to the Station Manager and tried to negotiate terms for your input in calling into the show. On that same date, Media Matters writes an article regarding the situation.

    12. On January 12th, the “lone anonymous blogger” doesn’t call in, however YOU do and you are able to give your say on the matter.

    13. On that same date, Media Matters does an article about the matter and the Media Reform Conference begins in which Duncan Black, David Brock of Media Matters (funded by Soros) participate with Democrat legislators Hinchey and Sanders, representatives of Moveon.org (funded by Soros) your boss (or rather client since you claim to be a free lance reporter hired to disrupt Republican campaign functions) Cenk Ugyar of the Young Turks, Air America Radio Program and Geena Davis, Danny Glover and Jane Fonda attend, as well as Jesse Jackson.

    14. Following the Conference, you focus on media reform and the blogosphere is flooded with blogs about media reform.

    Now, perhaps you can tell us what the role was by Nancy Pelosi in this obvious campaign by Democrats to squelch free speech as well as the role of Ted Kennedy. What role did Pelosi play in trying to “shut down” a radio station in her own district?

    What strategy is being used now, besides your new “website” attacking Disney?

    What is your relationship with Nancy Pelosi and is she supporting you, despite your violent actions against Republicans and the assault upon a woman?

    Does she condone the sexist comments you make about women and your actions toward them and how does Ted Kennedy feel about them?

    How much income do you receive in order to travel through the U.S. campaigning and attending conferences? This past year, you traveled to the KOS Conference, to the Iowa primary, to Connecticut and have made regular trips to DC to meet with top national legislators, despite the fact you are a “poor student” relying upon student loans and your wife’s income to support your family.

    Law school ain’t cheap, especially at a Tier I level. Since you claim to be a former waiter and wine steward up until last year, solely funded by student loans (which hardly cover tuition) and your wife’s income is the sole income, as you claim) just how are you financing everything? Are you donations reported to the IRS as taxable income, since this is a hobby and not a business?

    Just a few questions, which as a public figure who is involved with national political strategies to affect elections….by the way, you have my email address, so you can always respond….why is it you don’t want to answer the questions but prefer to have your “spokesman” address your issues with attacks? Is your spokesman really you?

    By your statements, it appears your actions are not only sanctioned by the Democrat Party but also strategized by them, as well. Finally, this is reinforced by your recent interview on CNN, where it appeared you spoke for the Democrat Party.

    So, is this all one propoganda campaign with the roots being with Nancy Pelosi?

    Lets see if you have the integrity to answer this one….rather than have the Media Matters lackeys answer it with offensive attacks. Lets see if the Democrats let you answer it.

13. 13 TheSpartan Jan 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pm

    Illblogical,
    you count funny,lol…seriously a quick scan of your post before you hit “submit” would be helpful. Must be what happens when you cut and paste.

14. 14 bacci40 Jan 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    soon blogical will be posting that mike is the real planner behind 9/11….jeez, that is some creepy shit

    could we get a little more paranoid?

15. 15 TheSpartan Jan 23rd, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    I know, that stuff is a riot.

16. 16 TheRick Jan 23rd, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    Hey Mike,
    I think you did a great job given that it was your first time, and you are correct–you’ll get even better with experience.

    At the ripe old age of 49, I often have political discussions with friends and family. And Republican followers have (over the last 10-15 years) started the practice of switching the argument to one easier for them to win. They can’t win meaningful debates because–let’s face it– they are Republicans. They almost always switch to the strawman.

    I love the way they were okay with boycotting the Dixie Chicks over something they said at a concert, but when an effectual boycott slams them in the pocketbook they cry foul.

    Remember, the heat is up, and we need to keep it there on both Republicans and Democrats. This isn’t about winning a single debate, it’s about making this country better for all. And you’re walking in the right direction.

    Thanks,
    Rick

    (Hey, thanks for exposing the boggot Allen, you may have changed history)

17. 17 !El Gato Negro! Jan 23rd, 2007 at 6:11 pm

    5. Just weeks before the Media Reform Conference in Nashville, Tennessee, you begin to organize liberal bloggers, mainly “Eschatonians” or rather known as “Atriots” who blog for Duncan Black and David Brock of Media Matters, financed by George Soros, to “blogswarm” the issue.

    Ahhhhhh, si, the reassuring taste of that sweet, sweet crack.

    Thees just een:

    Patho-Blogical guy ees goes batsheet , has textual meltdown, no film at eleven.

    so.

18. 18 FGFM Jan 23rd, 2007 at 7:23 pm

    “I am still waiting for a response regarding Nancy Pelosi’s and Ted Kennedy’s role in this debacle”

    Keep waiting, stalker.

19. 19 TheSpartan Jan 23rd, 2007 at 8:33 pm

    They were busy with the first 100 hours, you really think they give two flying f***s about what some hate merchants at a second rate talk radio station in SF say?

20. 20 Jeff Jan 24th, 2007 at 12:02 am

    Hey Blidiot…

    Calm down, Otis…My guess is it was Miss Marple in the Conservatory with a Pipe Wrench.

    Oh…you’re NOT playing CLUE? My bad…it’s just that you are beginning to sound like a third-rate poor immitation of an Oliver Stone screenplay that hasn’t been run through fact check yet.

    Here’s another point for you to scribble in your notebook, RainMan….On January 10th, at exactly 7:22 A.M. I wiped my ass with Charmin…Charmin is Paper…the Wall Street Journal is paper too….I guess that means that I am secretly a reporter for the Wall Street Journal in your ever-shrinking bubble of reality.

    Your novel-length diatribe did make me chuckle, though….I can hear you discussing your “thoery” on the phone with one of your fellow conspiracy nuts now:
    
    “Then, on 09:06 A.M. Zulu, on January 11, the subject placed a telephone call to a propriatorship known as “The Pizza Hut”…Subject ordered a medium with extra cheeze and then proceeded to…hold on a second….(cupping hand over the receiver) MOM…I’M ON THE PHOOOOOONE! NO MOM, IT’S NOT A GIRL…IT’S DEWEY!….CAN’T IT WAIT? DEWEY AND I ARE BUSY OVERTHROWING THE LIBERALS!!!! AWWWWWW JEEZ, MOM! Dewey, I gotta go…MY mom says I gotta come up from the basement and take out the trash! See you in-line for TrekCon Saturday Morning…I’m wearing my Trelarian Outpost Uniform! Live Long and Prosper! Blogical out!”

    Get out of Mom’s basement and get some sun, child…I fear the Radon is rotting that tic-tac of a brain rattling loosely around your otherwise empty cranium.

21. 21 Rheinhard Jan 24th, 2007 at 11:09 am

    Seems that blogical has dedicated a great deal of time to “opposition research” on Mike. Is he doing this entirely on his own time and on his own dime? Or is he, as I think is more likely, a paid oppo researcher in the employ of one of the right-wing smear foundations propped up by Richard Mellon Scaife money? I suggest we start looking into who blogical is working for, especially if his nonsensical theories start becoming a widespread meme in the wingnutosphere and/or talk radio.

22. 22 spaz Jan 24th, 2007 at 11:57 am

    All I can say is, “wow”, Blogical. That’s quite a long post that involved some research to come to a completely illogical conclusion. Who the hell ever taught you a thing about making an argument? You should get your money back. I mean really. After trying to besmearch Mike via constant references to his need to live off his wife (as if he’s the first law student to have his wife support him thru school with the expectation of his taking over in a big way once the degree is secured) which somehow makes him less of a man, at least in your mind, you proceed with…
    1) tyring to make Spocko look bad because he worked for Kerry’s campaign, supporting his candidate of choice? How is this a bad thing?
    2) asking other to join in the campaign to help bring the problem to the forefront of the advertisers awareness? Again, how is this a bad thing and exactly how is he supposed to control others in their communications with said advertisers?
    3) I don’t understand how this relates at all, but again wonder why Mike’s support of his party nationwide is somehow a bad thing.
    4) Yet again, away from the original point and again somehow supporting his party is a bad thing. What the hell?
    5) implication of violence is not back up by any reports of the incident and any charges filed against Mike. So here you are simply trying to put your opinion in as some unsubstantiated “fact”. And disruption of an opponents campaign is a pretty well worn tactic used by both parties.
    6) so after Mike attends some rallies and gets some press, the Young Turks think this may be a guy at the very least is willing to get out there and actually do something and who can get them some stuff for their show. Why is this so surprising?
    5 redo) So Mike decides to join the Spocko cause and you somehow try to besmearch him with implications of other guys you don’t like. You know, you’d really get your ass handed to you in court with this unsubstantiated implications and outright heresay accusations. Unless of course you’re part of the prosecution side down in Gitmo.
    6 redo) somehow going even wider to a widely read source to press your point is bad in your mind? And if you knew a damn thing about being a US Marine, you’d know their mindset is “once a Marine, always a Marine”, whether active duty or retired. Or course, I wouldn’t expect one of the typical GOP chickenhawks to know one damn thing about actually serving in the military.
    7) so the burgeoning effort gets reported. What a surprise!
    Mike participates in a conference call (which is the first indication of where your whole so-called post is weakly going)
    9) more people reporting about a story that’s gaining legs. Who would even think that could happen?
    10) a statement of fact without some unsupported implication of conspiracy, proving once again even the blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
    11) coincidental reports of Mike trying to negotiate his terms to participate with continued reporting of the event again attempting to imply something with zero foundation.
    12) Spocko doesn’t call but Mike does anyway. Are you trying to imply Spocko and Mike are the same person here because I’m really not sure what you are trying to do so far?
    13) All sorts of people again report on a thing that is actually of KSFO’s doing, including it’s advertisement (you do remember Melanie’s admission of astroturf e-mail) but your implication is again to some think there’s some sort of conspiracy.
    14) and we come down to something about media reform?
    Everything that follows is either an attempt to blame the entire sequence of events on Nancy Pelosi, due apparently to the one conference call in the middle of if all, and the rest of the Democratic party (that little “ic” ending still eludes you, but then again it’s apparent a lot of things elude you) combined with more attempts to make Mike look bad because his wife isn bringing in the money while he is in school.
    Sorry, but you fail miserably at your attempt to present some weak conspiracy theory against the effort and fail even more in your attempts to make Mike look bad personally.
    The bottom line is there are a lot of people who don’t approve of KSFO’s hate speech and are letting the advertisers who support the show know about it. Why is it only the GOP side gets to exercise their free speech in this matter? Why do you think we don’t get to tell the advertisers what we think and the advertisers get to decide what they want to support? And why don’t you even have a basic understanding of the 1st Amend. and what it means and who it is that can’t restrict free speech?

23. 23 ktallamigo Jan 24th, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    Mike Stark

    Spocko

    Stephen Colbert

    You are my heroes and give me a small ray of hope that the American people can stand up and save their country from the path of fascism.

    Thanks!

24. 24 Jeff Jan 24th, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    Another thing, Blidiot….

    Sorry to poke a huge friggin’ hole in your conspiracy thoery, but apparently folks like you are a little shy when it comes to a little thing those of us here in the “reality Based Community” like to refer to as “facts”:

    FACT: Nancy Pelosi won her congressional seat in the Fall 2006 mid-term election by an amazing 70% margin (80% to 10%) over her republican challenger. I believe your Commander-in-Chief refers to a win like that as “A THUMPIN”.

    When you win your congressional seat with the support of eight out of ten voters, you can be assured that ideas expressed by losers like Ms. Morgan are pretty routinely denounced and laughed at by your constituency. There is no need to even address such petty and hateful remarks, unless they cross the line of social acceptability.

    FACT: As much as people like you have been brainwashed by idiots like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity into hating Ted Kennedy, you need to wake up and face a pretty big dose of reality….Senator Kennedy won the 2006 mid-term election with an overwhelming 70% of the votes in his district. Like it or not, the people who he represents believe his service is so outstanding and representative of their values that they chose him over the republican challenger by more than a 40% margin.

    I know you don’t like it, but these FACTS far overshadow your tenuous conspiracy thoery.

    Must suck pretty bad to be you….you have my sympathy.

25. 25 kat Jan 24th, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    Blogical is not your ordinary troll, he/she can count to 10…never mind.

26. 26 blogicalthought Jan 24th, 2007 at 2:26 pm

    I see a lot of rhetoric and a number of insults and personal attacks, but no answers or discussion of the issues on this political blog..

    The issue is, on January 10, 2007, Mike Stark wrote the he engaged in a conference call with Nancy Pelosi AND Ted Kennedy on January 9, 2007. He stated he would post a transcript of the telephone call. On January 10, 2007, he also stated he was inside the U.S. Capitol Building.

    It is a well known fact that Mike began organizing bloggers, mainly those associated with Eschaton, lead by Duncan Black of Media Matters (financed by George Soros) in a campaign to notify advertisors (after they had already been notified by Spocko during the almost one year earlier) within weeks of the Media Reform meeting by the Democrats. It is a well known fact that the radio station Mike Stark was organizing “boycotting” of was a radio station located in Nancy Pelosi’s District.

    It is well known fact from Mike Stark himself, as well as Air America Press Releases, that he is a free lance journalist for Air America and was at the time he disrupted Republican campaign events which lead to acts of violence and assault, including that of a woman during the month of October of 2006, one week prior to the election. It is a well known fact, published by Mike Stark, he stated he was a free lance journalist for Air America at the time the disruptions occurred.

    It is also a well known fact that Mike Stark worked for the Democrat party in Iowa, Connecticut and in Virginia during the elections in an attempt to assist the Progressive Democrats.

    Therefore, due to Nancy Pelosi’s high position of trust and as one of the top ranking Democrats in the United States, it is important for the public to know whether or not she is involved in this campaign to eliminate free speech on conservative airwaves in her District and whether or not there is an abuse of power which has occurred, as well as involvement in a propoganda campaign.

    Jamison Foser (of Media Matters financed by George Soros) in recent radio broadcasts has confirmed he and the organization are trying to get conservative talk show hosts off the air. He has complained about conservative speech at CNN, ABC, NBC and various talk stations, particularly the one in Nancy Pelosi’s District.

    Clearly, Mike doesn’t have the guts or the integrity to answer the “tough questions.” though demands others to answer his, to the point of pushing people and battering them, including a woman.

    Instead of being an adult and reinforcing his convictions, it appears he prefers to leave it to the adolescent, shallow personal attacks of a few who appear to share his values, rather than discuss the issues as adults.

    This is truly amazing, as he has time to think about his responses and to present them in a logical manner, in the professional manner of a “journalist” which he claims to be.

27. 27 TheSpartan Jan 24th, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    “at the time he disrupted Republican campaign events which lead to acts of violence and assault”

    Umm…yeah, of him.

    And there’s no way he could have worked for the “democrat party” in Iowa as no such party exists.

    And the nest time you discuss something as an adult will be your first. Your posts are full of the personal attacks you decry.

28. 28 blogicalthought Jan 24th, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    Your response makes my point that the issues brought up are not being discussed in an adult manner. The question is:

    1. Is Nancy Pelosi involved with this campaign of Mike Stark’s and involved with Stark? Is she part of a concerted campaign which is targeting the elimination of free speech of conservative talk show hosts in her District. Does she condone these actions, including the battery of an ABC female journalist?

    The first link are photographs taken by an independent journalist of the assaults which occurred during disruptions in October of 2006. The second link contains the photograph of the female ABC journalist, being battered by Stark.

    http://fredericksburg.com/News/Web/2006/102006/1031allen/index2_html?qstart=10

    http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/doh/2006/11/mike_stark_arre.html

29. 29 !El Gato Negro! Jan 24th, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    The first link are photographs taken by an independent journalist of the assaults which occurred during disruptions in October of 2006.

    http://fredericksburg.com/News/Web/2006/102006/1031allen/index2_html?qstart=10

    Wow, an independent journalist caught Mike Stark being assaulted by two weengnutbars, great job Patho-Blobbical.

    so.

30. 30 Jeff Jan 24th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    Blogical, Here’s a few more facts:

    FACT: The “conference call” you refer to was a listening session sat in on by over 2,500 people across the nation. Both political parties do it, you pinhead….it’s a way to rally the working base. Having personally taken part in a number of these sessions, including ones hosted by Barack Obama as well as John Edwards, I can tell you that you look like a total idiot when you attempt to spin it in the way you have. Give it a rest.

    FACT: Media Matters is NOT financed by George Soros. And it never has been…Soros has never given one dollar to fund the operation of Media Matters. Not one. I personally challenge you to provide one single shred of proof that George Soros is in any way connected to the operation of Media Matters for America. You can’t…wanna know why? The simple truth is, Soros gives hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars to a multitude of progressive causes. Among those causes is The Democracy Alliance. Now, Media Matters HAS received funding through the Democracy Alliance, but Soros does not run that organization either….if you had bothered to do even the most basic fact checking, you would have found that The Democracy Alliance is a think tank consortium founded by Rob Stein, NOT George Soros as you would like us to believe. It is funded by over 80 wealthy progressive benefactors, including notibles Norman Lear and Rob Reiner, as well non-notables such as Anne Bartley, Tim Gill and Peter Lewes…among those 80 is George Soros.

    Now, Media Matters has also received some funding through Moveon.com…I’m a step ahead of you, Blidiot…you see, while Soros gives to MoveOn.com, so do tens of thousands of other American citizens who work for progressive change. No direct connection….funding progressive causes is what organizations like the Democracy Alliance and Moveon.com do. Just like conservitive causes like FocusOnTheFamily give to Republican-leaning organizations like GOpac and TomDelay.com.

    You see…for all your bluster and thunder, there just isn’t any tempest in this teacup. When your shoddy and unresearched assertions are subjected to the light of day, they are quickly exposed for exactly what they are and just fall apart.

    Simply put, the story that Soros funds Media Matters is a prevarication perpetuated by Bill O’Reilly. I can see how you could become so misinformed, considering your sources.

    FACT: Mike is not an employee of Air America…He never has been. He was offered media credentialing by The Young Turks during the Allen campaign to address Allen’s assertions that he was not a “real” journalist, and has occasionally done stringer stories for them since. Why do you persist in this lie?

    FACT: Mike works for campaigns. So what?…..here’s a news flash, zippy…so do about 5 million other American citizens. Mike is a campaign worker….given his passion for the Democratic process, I would expect nothing less. However, the point you can’t seem to get through your thick skull is that doing campaign work and being an affiliated operative with a candidate are vastly different things. You are clearly confused by the two, and trying desparately to make connections where there are none. Mike has never tried to hide any progressive activities, and has never in any way attempted to hide his political activities in ANY manner. He is a progressive democrat…worlking for change is what progressive democrats do, you idiot….whineing about others working to effect political change seems to be what neoconservitives do instead of investing good faith effort in bringing about change….you seem to have mastered that skill at best. Blidiot,…again, I ask you…what’s your point?

    CHALLENGE: Please cite the actual transcript where Foster supposedly stated he is actively working to get “conservative talk show hosts off the air.” I want you to cite the exact quote, and I want you to provide a link to the unedited transcript, or just drop the lie once and for all.

    You have been challenged with two points…do you have the ability to back up your assertions with actual proof? I seriously doubt it.

31. 31 spaz Jan 24th, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    Gee, Blogical. You want intelligent answers to your patently ridiculous questions. You’re wrong about so many of your assumptions it would be funny if it wasn’t just so damn pathetic. The pictures you post show at best equal fault between Mike and the Allen goons, with Mike doing his best to get close enough to ask his questions and the goons doing their best to block his path. I guess when the police checked these out and decided no charges should be filed, they kinda felt the same way. But you know better. As for the other picture, how the hell can you even tell what’s going on? Is that Mike’s hand and did it make contact? Did the “face” initiate the contact? Is the expression due to actually contacting the hand or is it from the chanting of the pro-Allen crowd (if you bother to watch the video from which this still is pulled)?
    Jeff has already pointed out how you are grossly misinformed about the funding of various organizations. Unfortunately for you and yours, the “public” is quite aware that costant repitition of falsehoods does not make them true. Time for a new tactic on your part.
    And Jeff also answered quite ably the conference call question. Even if Mike participated in a huge conference call, that in no way even suggests the matter of KSFO was brought up or if Nancy Pelosi acknowledged or even cares about those idiots. Using your line of reasoning, I could be a confessed puppy killer, participate in one of lil Georgie’s formerly well used town-meeting BS sessions, and now ask the question does the President condone puppy killing.
    Are you really too dense to see your questions and arguments have no basis in fact or reality? Or is it you’re just so friggin stubborn you can’t let a losing cause go? In the mean time, how about answering a rather simple question? Why do you support people who use the public airwaves to spout such hate filled speach?

32. 32 TheRick Jan 24th, 2007 at 5:14 pm

    Blogicalthought –

    This is the United States of America, and here we have the right to express our polital opinions, work for campaigns of our choice, and speak out against that which we disagree.

    I will take the time to answer any 10 questions you choose, if you’ll answer just two from me;

    1) Do you support everything that Melanie Morgans show has expressed?

    2) Do you think the Dixie Chicks free speech rights were violated when people stopped buying their records after Natalie Maines controversial statement?

    Please give me your answers and up to 10 questions so we can continue to have a constructive debate.

    Rick

33. 33 bacci40 Jan 24th, 2007 at 6:12 pm

    fact: the deomization of george soros is nothing more than a continuation of spreading the myth and fear of the great jewish conspiracy.

    fact: blogical uses pics that are taken from a vid, that when seen in context make the pics much less controversial, and in fact lies

    fact: the world saw the entire vid of the altercation at the rally, taken from a different view, which clearly shows macaca followers physically blocking mike as he attempted to ask senator macaca a question

    fact: the “independant” journalist can be seen in the other vids of the incident, and worked for the macaca campaign

    fact: no charges were ever filed against mike

    fact: mike stark and osama bin laden have never been photographed together, and if you run osama’s taped messages backwards, they sound earilty similar to phone calls made by mike to lufa boy

34. 34 Jeff Jan 24th, 2007 at 7:11 pm

    Blogical…just a few questions for you about the KSFO On-Air Staff…

    1) Why is Melanie Morgan so obsessed with hiding her ties to a gentleman named Sal Russo, a self-described “veteran Republican consultant”?

    2) Why was the listed address for Morgan’s organization “Move America Forward” a supposedly “non partisan” 501c3 political action committee, initially listed as the same address as Sal Russo’s Republican Public Relations and Advertising Firm; Russo Marsh and Rodgers?

    3) Can you tell me why Melanie Morgan has an e-mail account with Sal Russo’s Republican Public Relations and Advertising Firm Russo Marsh and Rodgers? Is she an employee of that organization?

    4) When a Sacramento Newspaper uncovered the connection between Ms. Morgan’s Move America Forward organization and the Republican Public Relations and Advertising firm of Russo Marsh and Rodgers, why did Move America Forward immediately change their contact information to the address of a seedy Sacremento bar called “The Downtown Purgatory”?

    5) When that was also uncovered, why did MAF remove ALL contact information from their ISP database?

    6) Can you tell us who Howard Kaloogian is? What is Melanie Morgan’s connention to Howard Kaloogian? Has she ever been in his employ?

    7) Why does Melanie Morgan hide the fact that after her son was born in 1990, addiction to gambling led her to an intervention by Child Protective Services for reported child neglect?
    If Morgan is such an advocate of free speech, why was she a principal in the campaign to keep the miniseries “The Reagans” off the air?

    9) If Morgan is such an advocate of free speech, why was she a principal in the campaign to have the movie Ferinheit 911 banned from theatres?

    10) Does “Officer Vic” have an arrest record?….can you tell me what any arrest record he has states?

    Now Lets see if YOU have the integrity to answer these….while you are at it, rather than using the pseudonym “Blogical” to hide, why don’t you act like an adult and come right out and disclose who you really are and any connections you might have to Morgan, KSFO or Move America Forward?

    We are waiting for your answers.

35. 35 blogicalthought Jan 24th, 2007 at 7:50 pm

    On December 1, 2004, David Brock made an unequivocal statement that, “”neither Media Matters nor its president and CEO David Brock has received any money from Soros or from any organization with which he is affiliated.”

    However, this was an untrue statement as on March 3, 2005, Sally Aman, Media Matters spokeswoman corrected the initial statement by writing: “In response to your query regarding donor funding Media Matters for America has never received funding directly from George Soros,” She further elaborated it HAD received funding from organizations which were funded by Soros, to include Moveon.org and the New Democrat Network. She elaborated the funding they receive is also from individual donors who are “regular contributors” to progressive causes.

    In December of 2006, the Moveon.org Voter Fund, an arm established apart from the organization, reached a settlement with the FEC for fines of $150,000 because it accepted millions of dollars from George Soros.

    The Center for American Progress headed by John Podesta, gave office space and logistical assistance to Media Matters in 2004. If you recall, John Podesta was the Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton. I was amazed to see his involvement with Media Matters as he is a very well spoken person and the family members of his that I know are polite and fine people. However…..Podesta’s organization was financed by Soros to the tune of $3 million dollars and Morton Halperin, involved with the Center for American Progress is also the Director for Soros’ Open Society Institute.

    In January of 2005, a complaint was filed with the FEC that Soros was violating election law.

    Brock has been a regular defender of George Soros and Media Matters has written articles in defense of Soros.

    Media Matters has been funded by the Tides Foundation which established a “Democratic Justice Fund” which was financed with part of the $7 million dollars donated by George Soros. They also have the Iraq Peace Fund, which funded Moveon.org, which in turn, also funded Media Matters. Interesting enough, they also funded the “Ruckus Society” which disrupted Republican campaign events.

    Soros has contributed heavily to the Democracy Alliance, which has given considerable funding to Media Matters. The Alliance consists of the wealthiest of Democrats who contribute their funds into one pool and then allocate it to different “progressive organizations.

    To note, in essence, Media Matters is funded by the wealthiest liberals in the country, to include Peter Lewis, a very close friend of Soros who also funds Air America. Media Matters individuals are often contributors on Air America, which employed Mike Stark as a free lance journalist, during his campaign to disrupt Republican campaign events.

    Media Matters Chief Communications Strategist is Dennis Yedwab, who has also served as the Director of Strategic Resources at Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Many of their employees have been staffers and interns for Democrat Senators and Legislators. Katie Barge, the former Director of Research at Media Matters conducted opposition research for John Edwards.

    Media Matters is also funded by the Arca Foundation, which was funded by the Founder of the RJ Reynolds Tobacco Company. it is also funded by the Peninsula Foundation and the San Francisco Foundation.

    Much of Media Matters funding comes from the San Francisco area, from the wealthy liberals, who have a strong interest in stopping the free speech of the San Francisco talk radio station.

    Media Matters has completed eight articles since December 7th regarding that one television station, after the talk show host announced she had a binder of research on Nancy Pelosi and was “targeting her.” They have posted six articles regarding Mike Stark since November 16, 2005. There are thirty articles about “Spocko” on the Media Matters website since September 12, 2006 and many more in which Spocko has contributed to the website since the inception of Media Matters.

    Spocko on 2004 with his intent (far from a lone bloggger but involved in Eschaton)
    :

    backslider. What? What did he just do?

    Throw down the gauntlet

    This is what really is scary:

    Beginning next year, the F.E.C. will institute new rules on the restricted uses of the Internet as it relates to political speech

    Of course it will NEVER be used AGAINST ANYONE at Free Republic.
    OH NO cause they SUPPORT the President. Not like those traitors on Eschaton.

    Does this mean that I can now go after the partisan people who are hiding behind the FOX news web site?
    spocko | Homepage | 12.08.04 - 8:21 pm | #

    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/atrios/110255407013716886/

    OR THESE, SPOCKO IN BLOG FORUM WITH GEORGE SOROS:

    spocko says:
    July 23rd, 2006 at 2:36 pm *

    challenging a “false metaphor” such as the “war on terror” is so threatening to everything the power structure of the Bush administration has been erected upon that to do so will certainly draw down the full force of the right-wing bullies.”

    Yes. Right-wing bullies. And let’s also talk money because Mr. Soros derives some respect on the right because he has made a lot of it.

    Right-wing bullies are paid full time to be bullies. Paid by think tanks funded by corporations. Paid for by advertisers that see bullies as a way to reach consumers.

    When we say media we must also include now the 13 million Rush listeners and 12 million Hannity listeners who are the ones pushing the charges of “anti-Americanism” and “soft on terror” to anyone who disagrees.

    Multiple methods are underway to address these bullies but in their medium good speech does NOT drive out bad. They literally own the airwaves. The work of Media Matters is very important, but pushing back at them is often rendered ineffective when they are supported by millions of dollars and the full force of a Republican Noise Machine as Brock as documented.

    What is the best way to beat down their dangerous, destructive narrative when most of the tools in the past (like the fairness doctrine and diversity through multiple ownership rules) have been removed?

    http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:aKVylKRNgdMJ:www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/ spocko “like media matters”&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5

    george soros says
    July 23rd, 2006 at 2:27 pm
    Recent events in the Middle East represent a significant escalation. The war on terror has turned into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    The painful thing is that this ironic turn of events was ‘prophesized’ by lots of commentators. While the White House and neo-con pundits predicted American soldiers being welcomed as liberators, and Iraq as the claim-stake of Middle Eastern democracy, there were lots of folks on hand, with plenty of bona fides, predicting exactly the outcome we are all now facing.

    It’s why I once suggested, after days of watching Scott Ritter ignored and dismissed by the MSM, that…

    There should be a blog/website solely to collate the real pundits who have been accurate, prescient, and both rigorous and thorough in their analysis and predictions.

    The site could be called American Oracles and, as at Media Matters, it could be searchable by name (The Oracles) or by topic.

    The idea would be to establish their bona fides as reliable authorities and trusted sources of information/predictions/advice by proving their track records with a one-stop-source for links.

    It would be a non-partisan site and would include anyone whose record proved them to be worthy of the public’s ear.

    If the site needed an edge, there could also be a list on “Non-Oracles” who had a proven record of being wrong - again from both sides of the aisle.

    I know this information is out there on the internet and in the blogosphere, but I think it might be useful to be able to go to a single site and say, “Hmmm, I wonder what Al Gore’s track record is on all subjects?” and then scroll down through a list of links.

    There is a lot of cogent analysis being done, but it is swamped by the bloviating of blowhards.

    Is this a viable and useful concept, or is it already covered sufficiently by the current blogorati?

    http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:aKVylKRNgdMJ:www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/ spocko “like media matters”&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5

    spocko says:
    July 23rd, 2006 at 3:32 pm *

    As Eli said. in #121. I’m reading Brock’s Republican Noise Machine and the amount of money backing them and their ideas are astonishing. And when you fight against it, AS A HOBBY, you are fighting against people who are highly paid to promote their ideas and beat you down. It is their full time job. They and 1000’s of others do nothing more all day than support and encourage their narrative.

    There is no PR firm pushing fulltime to get more of Jane, Christy, Digby, Greenwald or Athenae on the TV shows or in the papers.

    In order to be recognized they have to write a book (has to be a best seller) then they have the privilege of getting the crap beat out of them for 5 minutes on O’Rielly, condescended to by Matthews, ridiculed 24/7 on talk radio or ignored entirely (like Eric Boehlert was) because they offer something that the media doesn’t want to address.

    The infrastructure to support opposing narratives isn’t glamorous and it doesn’t pay well. If it wasn’t for the tools (mostly free) that we have available to us with the internet would we even hear these different ideas at all?
    Quote This Comment

    http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:aKVylKRNgdMJ:www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/ spocko “like media matters”&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5

    spocko says
    July 23rd, 2006 at 4:04 pm
    Regarding a “truth” repository…

    Spocko, I’m not sure if you are referring to my American Oracle idea (#46) or not, but my gut feeling is that most good reporters know that stuff already, but are loath to be confrontational.

    I was more interested in crediting those commentators, journalists, pundits and politicians with reliable track records as prescient thinkers, advisers and prognosticators…and discrediting those who have been repeatedly wrong.

    We do it for golf and baseball, but not for something as important as domestic and foreign policy.

    This site would serve the purpose you suggested, and something more, I hope. Over time, people would be able to judge, for themselves, whose advice to credit as informed, and whose to dismiss as unreliable.

    In the same way that Media Matters documents and catalogues the lies, this site would document and catalogue truths. Yang to the MM’s Yin, or something like that.

    SO, TO WRAP UP, WE HAVE DUNCAN BLACK, A SENIOR FELLOW AT MEDIA MATTERS, WHO ORGANIZES THE ESCHATONIANS, TO BLOG ON BEHALF OF A 501 C (3) ORGANIZATION (THAT IS ALSO INVOLVED IN POLITICAL CAMPAIGNING - SEE DUNCAN BLACK AT THE CT. PRIMARY WITH MIKE STARK PHOTO) FUNDED WITH SAN FRANCISCO MONEY, TRYING TO SQUELCH THE FREE SPEECH OF A SAN FRANCISCO CONSERVATIVE TALK RADIO STATION……..AND……….A LONE BLOGGER WHO IS NOT SO LONE, IN THAT HE IS A MEMBER OF THE ESCHATONIANS AND ORGANIZED DEMOCRAT CAMPAIGNS.

    At 7/26/2006 6:30 PM, spocko said…
    I blame Rune Arledge. He was put in charge of ABC News and said, ‘We can make a profit from this, just like I did Sports! The hell with that “the networks owe the public the truth crap.”

    Actually I’m sure there were more and earlier comments like that. In the movie “Good Night and Good Luck” they talk about sponsors and who pays and what they like and don’t like.’

    For karmic-j one thing that I don’t think there was enough of in Eric’s (Bohlert) book (which is great btw) is stories of intimidation of the press. In all it’s forms.
    The official phone calls to editors and reporters. Maybe that would get people’s attention. He has one example in the book of the way the Irish reporter was intimidated by the WH and she reported on it.

    Another thing, good journalism can be hard work and over at Editor and Publisher they are discussing just how horrible the salaries are. The gifted journalists who want to eat sometimes leave because they can’t afford to keep working there. Especially if being a corporate pr person pays more.

    I do think that Soro’s helping Media Matters is a very important thing because otherwise people couldn’t afford to do this a hobby. The “media research center” has 100s of staffers and a multi-million dollar budget. If you KNOW that you are going to get hammered by 12 staffers from MRC, Heritage, AEI and FotF vs. that maybe two dedicated people on the left, they figure, why stir up the people whose job it is to come after me? I’ll just make the article “balanced” so they don’t squawk, and move on to the next story.

    And remember when you skip your commercials with Tivo, you’re stealing TV!
    http://multimedium.blogspot.com/2006/07/please-reconsider-mr-soros.html

    This post by Spocko says it all:

    Re: Many good points. Curious, though (none / 0)
    Excellent comment. I actually have thought about this for a while. I think that bloggers can HELP the mainstream media prevent these kind of mistakes if they get the kind of polite (since they faint when you say the f-word) focused emails that Media Matters suggest we write.

    by spocko on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:55:43 PM EST
    [ Parent ]

    http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:dV82F-e0IxoJ:www.mydd.com/story/2006/8/10/234918/474 spocko “john kerry”&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=49

    SPOCKO STATES THE LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN WAS DONE BY MEDIA MATTERS!

36. 36 blogicalthought Jan 24th, 2007 at 8:44 pm

    The issue is:

    1. What role is Nancy Pelosi playing in this. If it was strictly a political conference call, then why not put up the transcripts? What was Mike doing at the Capitol the day following the call?

    2. Does Nancy Pelosi have a relationship with Mike Stark?

    3. Does she agree with his guerilla tactics and the antics which occurred?

    I appreciate the information provided thus far, such as Mike really wasn’t an Air America journalist, as he claimed to be, in January of this year, however could you please provide your source for the conflicting information?

    I appreciate the information that the conference call was strictly a “political party” conference call to 2500 people, however, can you cite your source.

    The issue is Media Matters is working to squelch the free speech of conservative talk show hosts by their Senior Member, Duncan Black’s group of bloggers calling for a boycott on the radio station.

    There is a much longer post which has been posted but is not up yet due to “moderation” which explains a lot of reasoning for the questions.

    Have a nice day boys…

    Rick, will respond to your post shortly as I want to give it full thought. It is refreshing to see someone informed, open and honest on this site.

37. 37 Jeff Jan 24th, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    Answer the questions, Blogical.

38. 38 bacci40 Jan 24th, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    question…..

    why does blogical continue to lie in his/her posts?

    what is blogical’s relationship to dick cheney?

    is blogical the father of mary cheney’s bastard child to be?

    does blogical masturbate into a turkey baster?

    what is blogical’s relationship to jeff gannon?

    i can keep this up all day

39. 39 Phila Jan 24th, 2007 at 11:10 pm

    The issue is Media Matters is working to squelch the free speech of conservative talk show hosts by their Senior Member, Duncan Black’s group of bloggers calling for a boycott on the radio station.

    It seems to me that the only people KSFO and its supporters should be complaining about are the advertisers who pulled their spots. The fact is, if you broadcast gags about testicle-torture and genocide, you are going to get complaints…especially when you’re operating in an overwhelmingly liberal market.

    KSFO’s hosts are always prattling about how they’re working in the belly of the beast, and yet when they face the predictable consequences of their overheated rhetoric, they turn into utter crybabies. The solution to losing advertisers is to pursue new advertisers who’ll support your message, and won’t cave in to pressure like Spocko’s. If Ted Nugent were advertising his venison jerky on KSFO, I’m sure he’d toss letters like Spocko’s in the garbage. And that would be his right, just as it’s FedEx’s right to pull spots in response to comments about killing millions of Indonesians. (Many FedEx customers, clients, and employees live in Indonesia, or have family there…why would it be a good business decision for them to underwrite comments like Rodgers’?)

    The wingnut version of “free speech” seems to be that businesses must sponsor talk hosts, whether they agree with the rhetoric or not. Sorry, BT, but that’s not how the market works.

    One question, though: What is “Duncan Black’s group of bloggers,” and how does one become a member?

40. 40 TheSpartan Jan 24th, 2007 at 11:24 pm

    I’m guessing illblogical can’t keep it up for more than a minute or two.

41. 41 Rheinhard Jan 25th, 2007 at 12:25 am

    I really don’t think it’s a good idea to engage blogical here. I have a feeling anything said here is going to end up in some WorldNutDaily or Drudge press release, especially if it’s not phrased exactly correctly. These people are looking for scare quotes that can be used to smear the netroots and the left blogosphere in general. If blogical’s whining enquiries require response, it is best to let Mike handle them. We commenters should not presume to speak for him.

42. 42 !El Gato Negro! Jan 25th, 2007 at 4:12 am

    I would no presume to speak for the capable and erudite Señor Stark,

    however, here ees one response from Ripley at Zencabin.com and Blog-Integrity.

    so.

43. 43 bacci40 Jan 25th, 2007 at 4:21 am

    shit…let them paint me as a wacked out lib who wastes too much time on blogs

    they have already smeared both kos and atrios based on posts left on their boards

    the wingnuts will never have their minds changed in any case

    ive been perusing the wingnut sites since the stirring sotus and these guys all exist on a different plane of existence

    they are so enamoured by their failed neocon philosophy that they cant see the forrest for the trees

    and el gato, ive bookmarked your site….its very funny…thx

44. 44 jeff Jan 25th, 2007 at 8:47 am

    Just to recap. Blogical has a few questions about the KSFO On-Air Staff to answer before he pokes his pointy head back in here throwing false accusations at the Speaker of the House:

    Got the guts to answer them honestly, Blogical?

    1) Why is Melanie Morgan so obsessed with concealing her ties to a gentleman named Sal Russo, a self-described “veteran Republican consultant”?

    2) Why was the listed address for Morgan’s organization “Move America Forward” a supposedly “non partisan” 501c3 political action committee, initially listed as the same address as Sal Russo’s Republican Public Relations and Advertising Firm; Russo Marsh and Rodgers?

    3) Can you tell me why Melanie Morgan has an e-mail account with Sal Russo’s Republican Public Relations and Advertising Firm Russo Marsh and Rodgers? Is she an employee of that organization?

    4) When a Sacramento Newspaper uncovered the connection between Ms. Morgan’s Move America Forward organization and the Republican Public Relations and Advertising firm of Russo Marsh and Rodgers, why did Move America Forward immediately change their contact information to the address of a seedy Sacremento bar called “The Downtown Purgatory”?

    5) When that was also uncovered, why did MAF remove ALL contact information from their ISP database?

    6) Can you tell us who Howard Kaloogian is? What is Melanie Morgan’s connention to Howard Kaloogian? Has she ever been in his employ?

    7) Why does Melanie Morgan hide the fact that after her son was born in 1990, addiction to gambling led her to an intervention by Child Protective Services for reported child neglect?
    If Morgan is such an advocate of free speech, why was she a principal in the campaign to keep the miniseries “The Reagans” off the air?

    9) If Morgan is such an advocate of free speech, why was she a principal in the campaign to have the movie Ferinheit 911 banned from theatres?

    10) Does “Officer Vic” have an arrest record?….can you tell me what any arrest record he has states?

    Now Lets see if YOU have the integrity to answer these….while you are at it, rather than using the pseudonym “Blogical” to hide, why don’t you act like an adult and come right out and disclose to all of us who you really are and any connections you might have to Morgan, KSFO or Move America Forward?

    Here’s a little clue, Blogical…I must say, you are pretty shoddy at covering your tracks.

    We are waiting for your answers.

45. 45 blogicalthought Jan 25th, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    Mike,

    Can you advise when the post written yesterday will be “moderated” and put on this board?

    It contained no “offensive matter” (as defined in legal terms) no profanity and nothing else but some facts gleaned from the internet.

    Is there a rason why you wouldn’t desire it to be posted.

46. 46 Jeff Jan 25th, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    Blogical…answer the questions.

47. 47 Thers Jan 25th, 2007 at 2:05 pm

    It is a well known fact that Mike began organizing bloggers, mainly those associated with Eschaton, lead by Duncan Black of Media Matters (financed by George Soros) in a campaign to notify advertisors (after they had already been notified by Spocko during the almost one year earlier) within weeks of the Media Reform meeting by the Democrats. It is a well known fact that the radio station Mike Stark was organizing “boycotting” of was a radio station located in Nancy Pelosi’s District.

    You have quite an imagination.

    Over at BlogIntegrity we got involved in this because Spocko is our friend and we agreed with him. Atrios didn’t command us, Nancy Pelosi didn’t order us, George Soros doesn’t fund us.

    And Mike Stark didn’t “organize” us. We organized ourselves, dude. We don’t do that top-down thing over here on the Left.

    But the conspiracy stuff is hilarious, so keep it coming!

48. 48 Jeff Jan 25th, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    Funny….you hit a troll like Blogical with a few questions about personal motivations, and next thing you know, he’s Casper…Gone with the Wind…Off Like a Prom Dress.

    Personally, I believe Blogical has no right to ask questions until he/she comes clean and ANSWERS the questions we have about any connections to Morgan/KSFO/MAF.

    You got two choices….either answer the friggin’ questions, Blidiot, or just get out of our collective faces.

49. 49 jeff Jan 27th, 2007 at 9:43 am

    Blogical said:

    Can you advise when the post written yesterday will be “moderated” and put on this board? It contained no “offensive matter” (as defined in legal terms) no profanity and nothing else but some facts gleaned from the internet. Is there a rason why you wouldn’t desire it to be posted?

    Hey, Blidiot….

    Given what I have discovered about your background and the fact that you are relatively new to posting to blogs, I guess you failed to comprehend that the “rason” your post was held to be “moderated” was it contained several links.

    If you were not such a friggin’ neophite to posting on the “Internets”, you would have obviously known that it is a common practice for a board operator to hold posts that contain links until the links can be verified. This is done for the safety of the people who will read the post after it is posted…after all, you wouldn’t want some unsuspecting reader to be re-directed to “KittyHarrisSpanksNastyNeoCons.com” where they might get infected with some nasty virus now, would you? (We all know how concerned you are that some innocent child might be exposed to the words “ass” or “poop”)

    You see, being as new to the “Internets” as you are, you have yet to discover that only Conservitive blogs hold posts for review of content and nix posts that disagree with the topic of discussion…we on the progressive side are vigorously committed to the practice of all of the tenets of free speech…even when it is offensive, uncomprehensible and full of lies…you know….like yours.

    Seeing as Mike is a first year law student and also maintains his family life on top of being politically active and running this blog, reviewing some impatient trolls posts for accuracy is understandably a pretty low priority….sorry….no big “conspiracy” against you here.

    Now start answering the fucking questions.

50. 50 !El Gato Negro! Jan 27th, 2007 at 3:29 pm

    ¡The Wrath of Spocko!

    ¡Vamanos! Share and Enjoy.

    Feel free, once joo have viewed the video, to post eet on jour own blogs, and email eet to everyone joo weesh.

    so.

51. 51 CMike Jan 28th, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    Heads up Mike. You wrote:

    The fact is that 5 people died in the anthrax attacks of 2001. All five worked for media organizations.

    Here’s the Wikipedia timeline. Five people died from anthrax inhalation during the period of the anthrax attacks in 2001. The deceased were:

    1) Robert Stevens who worked for the Sun, a Florida tabloid

    2) Thomas L. Morris who worked for the United States Postal Service in Washington, D.C.

    3) Joseph P. Curseen who worked for the United States Postal Service in Washington, D.C.

    4) Kathy Nguyen who worked for the Manhattan Eye, Ear and Throat Hospital in New York City.

    5) Ottilie Lundgren who was an elderly stay at home widow in Connecticut..

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